Here is my current threatlist
Espathra is so fucking stupid I hate it so much. It's so bulky especially behind screens and its lack of power is quickly remedied as it just accrues a ton of boosts. I’ll remind everyone there are no spdef unaware mons to Tera dark with. It just wins any boost-off and flips any matchups it would lose with tera fairy. It's slower to get going than in standard but much harder to stop, and necessitates some pretty specific and harsh countermeasures, be it an aggressive trick scarf, tera steel on a mon that can at least toxic it or roar it or something (plenty of good dragon tail users here that just lose to tera fairy!), cause nothing offensive is beating it down once it gets a few boosts going. Also, it can pick its own counters with its Tera type. Tera fighting easily beats kingambit and destroys the otherwise counter in spdef chien-pao and also foils mons that tera steel expecting the tera fairy set. I could easily see it running something like tera dark to provide safety against scarf pecharunt, or tera steel or just sub to beat toxic lol. It feels like the only safe answers to it are a very bulky roar mon like zoroark-h (can often simply delay the problem) or switching directly into your choiced mon and clicking trick (there are not many viable users of this). Ohhh I also want to tell you about weakness policy too lol, just devastating if you go for a weak knock off or u-turn against it at the wrong time. This bird is at the top of my shitlist and contributes to my occasional non-enjoyment of this meta
There are a lot of Meteor Beam abusers that can be pretty hard to handle or overwhelming to would-be checks, Rhyperior is the best one in my eyes cause it has the best coverage and speed tier. There are some spdef mons you see that can check it but pretty much all of them need to be pretty healthy and can be potentially foiled by an aggressive tera or some prior chip damage. It also has such an awesome movepool and natural coverage with earth power and ice beam that it can easily run pretty much anything it likes in the last slot. I'm trying to put people on Tera Blast Fairy, this gives you extra juice to break through pretty much every spdef mon and meteor beam resist like breloom, roaring moon, great tusk, iron valiant, dragapult. You could even potentially cut out Ice Beam if you run this and get another free move slot for whatever specific purpose you want Rhyperior to fill. Maybe Sub to outplay those that try and dance around Meteor Beam? Rhyperior is a good offensive SR setter too, it beats all the common hazard removal. Some more weird options like Tera Grass Blast are definitely possible, Rhyperior can do it all. I knew that when I saw Mienshao on the banlist that Rhyperior would be potentially overwhelming, and it definitely seems to be that way. Even against offensive teams where Rhyperior is more manageable it is still usually getting a kill before going down.
This does the same thing as it does in standard so yeah it is very strong especially in some matchups. It has a more exploitably low Defense but overall Flipped is a bulkier meta so there are still plenty of weaker attacks going around it can sponge to get a boost to rage fist. It has other viable sets too, I've used scarf as an offensive check to meteor beam and revenge killer, AV seems potentially usable too to sponge a meteor beam while spinblocking avalugg-h and coalossal. But if it is banworthy it is definitely on the basis of the Bulk Up set, it just punishes weak pivoting so much and can actually outplay status with taunt or rest. The main wrench in this plan is hisui zoroark which is naturally immune to both of its STABs so any team with that mon is pretty insulated against annihilape It's a silver bullet for sure, but one that is pretty slow and passive with an exploitable lack of good recovery, so some teams with annihilape can perhaps even overcome that.
This is the second best Meteor Beam spammer, in my opinion. As you might have noticed a lot of the mons I mentioned as defensive rhyperior checks and meteor beam switch-ins earlier are weak to Ice, so naturally this thing has way better matchups against all of those. The main weakness of this mon is that it doesn't really have any good coverage so it's pretty reliant on Ice alone after it pops the Meteor Beam, but its so powerful that that is often all it needs, especially against offense or balance which it can just shred with the raw power and Sturdy to withstand a hit. Much like Rhyperior it can pretty much always get a kill against an offensive team before being revenge killed, but Sturdy can make that even harder in Avalugg-H's case. Can I just add that there aren't that many good specially defensive Ice resists in this format? I certainly can't think of any with recovery besides Chien-Pao. The best Ice resists with recovery (gholdengo, iron moth, volcarona) all have exploitably low special defense and are often just destroyed by meteor beam too, or an appropriate tera blast if it comes down to it, so Avalugg-H can beat them down in some games.
These two are allowed on the ladder even though they are listed as banned in the thread. They are pretty similar to each other. Compared to standard play they are really lacking in power and can't make 101 hp subs, but they are still huge balls of stats with access to all the nasty sets Kyurem is known for. Usually you see white kyurem with DD and black kyurem with specs or a specially biased attacker set but it can run DD too if you want access to Fusion Bolt and a bit more surprise factor. As I mentioned before this meta is a bit lacking in solid Ice resists so Specs can definitely put in work against teams lacking some exorbitant special walls, and with such great stats in every department it can work really well against offensive teams, naturally outspeeding a ton of stuff and with insane bulk to stomach hits from revenge killers like scarf pecharunt. It often needs to Tera to get that last little bit of power but it's a worthy Tera for sure. Physical DD sets are certainly good too and add to the surprise factor that Kyurem is known for, even if its a little weak to get started it's again super bulky and fast so against teams where your counterplay to such a set is more offensive in nature it can easily get up another DD and proceed to roll you. The only thing about kyurem is that having two forms that each have their own specialization makes it somehow more predictable lol. Like if you see kyurem-white you know that they are going to be DD cause fusion flare isn't enough of a reason to run specs, and you know they wouldn't be tera electric cause why the hell would you run that when you can just run kyu-b lol. Anyways I really would like to know if these mons are actually banned and allowed in as an oversight or not. I think they're pretty borderline but less so than other stuff and they are kinda fun.
And here's some one-liners about other mons I enjoy
Can switch in on Ice moves, can sit in on Espathra and click Haze, has reliable recovery and great bulk. Can even beat some Meteor Beam mons if you play around it, it seems bad on paper cause it's a defensive Ice type but it actually works in this meta.
AV Mola is a flawed but usable pivot, it naturally outspeeds Rhyperior and can come in on it if healthy enough.
Theoretically this mon has no switch-ins but I have never seen one click Rock Slide on my Talonflame entry, what are we doing exactly?
This guy is super strong, pretty much always needs to be accounted for somehow. Scarf Tera Ghost with Hex to beat down Gliscor?
Sometimes feels broken, sometimes feels like a shitmon.
Ceaseless Edge is still a broken move, even from 65 base attack. Starts to feel a lot better with SD + Black Glasses + Tera Dark.
Lowkey this mon is pretty borderline too, but I feel like I don't see it as often. Its counterplay can overlap with Rhyperior a bit.
It's a bit less applicable than Gholdengo or Dragapult as a bulky Ghost. A faster wisp and a potential Bulky CM set give it a unique sort of role though.
Neutralizing gas is not as needed when there are almost no Regen mons and you can do 90+ to phys def Gholdengo with invested Fire Blast, so you can run Levitate for even more entry opportunities. This mon plays as kind of a slow breaker that can also defog pretty easily, potentially spread poison and enter battle against Gliscor especially without knock off and remove its Spikes.
Oh yeah there is no sleep moves clause in this format, only sleep clause. And Amoonguss has 114 base speed lol. The best set i've found to abuse this is Sub Spore, taking something out of the battle with Spore and then just clicking weak Sludge Bombs to wear whatever it is down that comes in. Hex as last move to touch absorbers like gholdengo and gliscor. Fast Sub with a guaranteed sleep move and backed by regenerator is such a free move to click.
I'm pretty sure Zapdos is viable too, pretty good check to a lot of weird physical attackers.
Hydrapple is definitely a nice balance breaker with NP plus its coverage, and ability to heal LO recoil with Regen and Giga Drain.
I'm sure the old sets may be better but speed-boosting Booster Energy SD was more fun.
It can be pretty solid offensively but Tera-hungry, really reliant on Tera Blast Ice for Gliscor, Brambleghast, others.
This mon is always lame, good job Espeon.
Just an outrageous sun breaker, its stats so high and moves so powerful. It puts sun as an archetype on its back honestly. I feel like this is a mon we should keep an eye on too cause its just really hard to handle when played and supported well.
The last and worst AV Regen mon. It does get Knock Off. Might be the best Gouging Fire check but is otherwise pretty bad.
I tried using urshifu. It's not that good but has some defensive qualities and respectable power with its STABs and SD even off of a terrible attack stat. But a lot of the time I just wished I has SD Samurott-Hisui instead for the team support of Ceaseless Edge.
Don't use for spin specifically it is bad. The point of it is a CB Ice spammer with a higher-power Ice move than Regice (Triple Axel), priority and Levitate to enter battle easier. But with Flame Body Talonflame being common and lacking access to Knock Off or indeed any good coverage at all, it might not be viable this go around.
Scarf Meloetta has 40% flinch Zen Headbutt and great utility moves (Knock, Trick, U-turn) and coverage.
I'm sure this mon is viable too in some way but other Meteor Beam users just have it beat in most ways except raw spatk.
Taunt with Tera Ground might be better for Iron Moth and Dragapult (burns you through sub), but it's nothing against Talonflame and Volcarona. I have had fun with Sub Superpower with Fly though, gives you a lot of effective PP and extra Leftover recovery turns though so it's funny.
Sub Power Herb with Phantom Force, steal their item, click Focus Punch, it's so much fun.
Breloom
Cobalion
Gliscor
Roaring Moon
Ting-Lu
Deoxys-Defense
Gholdengo
Iron Moth
Iron Treads
Kingambit
Landorus-Therian
Manaphy
Persian-Alola
Primarina
Ribombee
Scream Tail
Talonflame
Tyranitar
Volcarona
Zoroark-Hisui
Coalossal
Glimmora
Heatran
Regidrago
Skeledirge
Tinkaton
Whimsicott
Zamazenta
Archaludon
Avalugg
Ceruledge
Dragapult
Dragonite
Flutter Mane
Garchomp
Goodra
Goodra-Hisui
Infernape
Iron Valiant
Jolteon
Klefki
Latias
Latios
Mandibuzz
Moltres-Galar
Palafin-Hero
Raichu
Regigigas
Tentacruel
Torterra
Comfey
Cresselia
Darkrai
Excadrill
Mew
Moltres
Ninetales
Ogerpon-Wellspring
Overqwil
Pelipper
Polteageist
Slither Wing
Wo-Chien
Ditto
Great Tusk
Hatterene
Hydreigon
Indeedee
Mimikyu
Salamence
Arcanine
Basculegion
Bastiodon
Carbink
Diancie
Dragalge
Fezandipiti
Iron Leaves
Jirachi
Meowscarada
Ninetales-Alola
Pincurchin
Rillaboom
Salazzle
Sceptile
Sneasler
Light Clay This item really enables the plethora of bulky setup sweepers. It gives enough turns to the screens that even with careful maneuvering by the opponent, it is easy for the screen setter's fat teammates to start racking up boosts and getting out of control. As such, this is the other element that we are currently in the process of voting on.
We have also heard requests about the possibility of unbanning one of the RegenVest pivots, of which Cyclizar is probably the best candidate, given its slightly less insane special bulk and some flaws in its typing, namely an ice weakness. There is some skepticism on this but we would be interested in community feedback.
