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Format Discussion Free-For-All Random Battle Set Suggestions

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What should be posted here?
- Accurate reports or screenshots of objectively bad movesets, ability synergy, items, et cetera.
- Suggestions on moves or items to add to (or remove from) Pokemon, backed by good reasoning.
- Suggestions on level balance changes fdor specific Pokemon, backed by good reasoning

What can I read to make the best suggestions I can?
We've got a very comprehensive resource for that!

Please do not post:
- One-liners. This includes suggestions without any backup reasoning.
- Complaints of illegal Pokemon or sets.
- Requests to add the National Dex.
- Posts complaining about unfairness, demanding certain Pokemon should be "banned" from the format, or complaining about hax.*
- Screenshots of movesets that are not actually bad.

Important details about Random Battles that affect set effectiveness and generation!
- All Pokemon have 85 EVs in every stat with a neutral nature, unless 0 Atk EVs/IVs and 0 Spe EVs/IVs would be beneficial. In these cases, the rest of the EVs are still 85 and the nature is still neutral.
- The set generation is random and runs on an algorithm. Sets will not be identical from match to match, and some sets may be slightly better than others; this thread is only for reporting unviable/undesirable sets. If you want the same few sets every time, you should play Battle Factory instead!
- Unreleased Pokemon and abilities and illegal move combinations are allowed in Random Battles.

Sleep, Toxic, and Toxic Spikes are banned in Free-For-All Random Battle
 
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Initial bug fixes:
  • Enforce Leech Seed with Spiky Shield, not just Protect
  • Fix Scald/Hydro Pump incompatibility
  • Make Trick Room and Future Sight incompatible, enforcing Revival Blessing on Rabsca
  • Fix paired move enforcement so it always applies to Leech Seed, Wish, and Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
  • Don't enforce Protect on Wallbreaker (oops!)
  • Restrict plate/silk scarf to only Wallbreaker and Fast Attacker, preventing Silk Scarf Tera Blast Sylveon
  • Fix Imprisoner Zoroark’s ability
Set changes:
  • Raikou and Suicune now always have Pressure; Entei still has Inner Focus for the Intimidate immunity
 
Can Tauros's wallbreaker set potentially roll for Rock Tomb, Rock Slide, and/or Stone Edge? Currently, the set is Protect, Close Combat, Body Slam, and Throat Chop with Sheer Force Life Orb. I believe SFLO Rock Slide and Rock Tomb could be useful in some matchups against Flying Pokemon or just spreading damage to everyone.
 
Acrobatics Roaring Moon can generate Clear Amulet as an item- surely this is not intended right?
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More bug fixes:
  • Acrobatics is now guaranteed to always get either Booster Energy or no item
  • Tornadus-Therian now always has Regenerator (oops!)
  • Slowking now actually gets Chilly Reception instead of “Chilling Reception”
 
Is it possible to make Rabsca potentially generate a Leppa Berry instead of Heavy-Duty-Boots when it has Revival Blessing? I believe that the greater chaos in Free-For-All paired with Protect could potentially allow Rabsca to fire off 2 uses of Revival Blessing, which can be arguably more useful if no hazards are up.

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