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Tournaments SPL XVII BW Discussion Thread

Sorry for my inactivity! I’ve been very busy with my exams and training for the next italian swimming championships, so I’ll try to make this up by doing game reviews for all the games I missed. I’ll try to be less descriptive of the game itself and to give more context and some of my impressions on the teams.
I will do week 5 together with week 6 later.

Week 3

[TYR] SoulWind vs sugarhigh [RUI]

SoulWind’s team: :Hippowdon: :Latios: :Magnezone: :Terrakion: :Rotom-Wash::Excadrill:

sugarhigh’s team: :Tyranitar: :Magnezone: :Gliscor: :Blissey: :Starmie::Celebi:

SoulWind chose to bring a sand team with Hippowdon as its setter, with Terrakion and Latios for some immediate firepower, while sugarhigh opted for a balanced team with key defensive pieces and Nasty Plot Celebi and Gliscor as its main ways to do damage. Both players have Magnezone on their team, probably to get rid of Pokémon like Ferrothorn, Skarmory, or even a chipped Excadrill if they are equipped with a Choice Scarf. On turn 1 SoulWind decides to set Stealth Rock with his Hippowdon against Nasty Plot Celebi, a risky play that repayed later (as he could find chances for Hippowdon to heal for free later). After Magnezone with HP Ice dies to sugarhigh’s Gliscor, SoulWind’s Terrakion enters the field for free, then claiming the opposing Scarf Magnezone too. SoulWind’s team reveals to have two Choice Scarf users, Rotom-W that tricked his item with Choice Band Tyranitar, and Excadrill, that later was able to kill defensive Starmie. Once Gliscor died on turn 27, sugarhigh forfeited. SoulWind played smartly, identifying his win-path early on and how much chipping Gliscor was vital for Excadrill to sweep. I appreciated his teams, usually Hippowdon is found on more bulky/stally structures, but here his ability to set the Sand, Stealth Rock, and heal himself were crucial. sugarhigh’s team is more prepared to face bulky teams with Magnezone, NP Celebi and Choice Band Tyranitar as a breaker (with Blissey instead to take care of strong special attackers). I see the vision and how it could play out but the matchup wasn’t the best.

[SHA] harshest vs Monai [WOL]

harshest’s team: :Abomasnow: :Mandibuzz: :Forretress: :Heatran: :Latios::Reuniclus:

Monai’s team: :Politoed: :Landorus-Therian: :Ferrothorn: :Latios: :Thundurus-Therian: :Starmie:

In this game we have Monai playing as Marshest against the Sith Lord, harshest. harshest brought an hail more defensive team, in the hopes of defeating his opponent in a longer drawn out game. Monai brought an offensive rain team, with Landorus as its Stealth Rock setter and Starmie as its spinner. The matchup wasn’t the best for harshest, and Monai was able to close things off early and win. I liked seeing Custap Berry Landorus-T on his side, it was a cool tech. The Focus Blast read on turn 18 gave Monai the lead and after that he kept building on it.

[BIG] Mako vs Star [RAI]

Star’s team: :Tyranitar: :Rotom-Wash: :Alakazam: :Gliscor: :Ferrothorn: :Latios:

Mako’s team: :Landorus-Therian: :Tyranitar: :Slowbro: :Heatran: :Celebi: :Excadrill:

Star used a Sand team with Alakazam and Spikes support in Ferrothorn, with Gliscor and Rotom-W to help having a good core. Mako brought a Sand team too, with Gravity Landorus and a Fire-Water-Grass core with Heatran, Slowbro, and Celebi. The game got decided on the last turns, where Starmaster got very unlucky and missed 2 Focus Blasts with his Life Orb Alakazam, failing to kill Mako’s Heatran. I liked Star’s team that uses a known 6 replacing Landorus-T with Gliscor. As for Mako, she used Slowbro, one of the less used Pokémon, both in week 1 and week 3. Here it complements nicely the defensive core of her team, helping against physical threats that could menace greatly the team, like Conkeldurr or Mamoswine for example.

[SCO] Brine vs GaryTheGengar [CRY]

Brine’s team: :Alakazam: :Latios: :Tyranitar: :Landorus-Therian: :Rotom-Wash: :Ferrothorn:

GaryTheGengar’s team: :Tyranitar: :Slowbro: :Heatran: :Ferrothorn::Excadrill: :Latios:

One of the shortest games of this SPL so far, puts Brine against GaryTheGengar. Brine uses the same 6 as the first sample team, with two Psychic attackers paired with Tyranitar and a solid defensive backbone, while GaryTheGengar opted for a less offensive approach, with Slowbro and Heatran paired with Ferrothorn and the other threats. Turn 1 Brine revealed HP Fire Rotom-W, that hit Gary’s Ferrothorn, which was holding an Occa Berry to mitigate his Fire weakness and to be able to act even against Fire coverage, as in this case. After Brine was able to trap and kill Gary’s Latios, his Custap Berry Tyranitar was able to kill the opposing Excadrill as Gary didn’t scout the item with Slowbro. After that the game ended in a few turns. We were also able to see Heatran’s HP Grass, a move that helps against Rotom and other water types, that are otherwise problematic for this Pokemon. Brine was able to win using only three of his Pokemons, closing the game with his Alakazam.

[TIG] Finchinator vs Dark Eeveon [CLA]

Finchinator’s team: :Kyurem-Black: :Starmie: :Jirachi: :Conkeldurr: :Dragonite::Garchomp:

Dark Eeveon’s team: :Landorus-Therian: :Tyranitar: :Scizor: :Rotom-Wash: :Celebi::Omastar:

Finchinator’s return in BW OU in SPL was against Dark Eeveon, after Cow was sent in SV OU jail. Eeveon brought a Sand team with Omastar, a Pokemon that is able to sweep and clean up in the endgames or to force sone early damage. Finchinator used a weatherless offensive team, with Garchomp as its Stealth Rock setter, with the goal to win playing at a high tempo. Choice Band Scizor was a great way for Eeveon to damage Finch’s Pokemons with its priority Technician-boosted Bullet Punch, but at the end the trainer of the Tigers was able to overwhelm his team by trading favorably using his threats like Conkeldurr and Dragonite. Kyurem-Black was the MVP of this game, claiming 3 kills. I liked seeing Kyurem-Black (could have been mixed or only special attacker with HP Fire I think) on an otherwise kind of common HO structure, with Sash Chomp - Balloon Mie - Scarf Rachi with Healing Wish to support the threats of the team. Eeveon’s sand team was interesting, but both Rotom-W and Omastar weren’t able to do much in this matchup.

Week 4

[RAI] Star vs SoulWind [TYR]

SoulWind’s team: :Alakazam: :Forretress: :Gliscor: :Slowbro: :Blissey::Reuniclus:

Star’s team: :Politoed: :Ferrothorn: :Thundurus-Therian: :Keldeo: :Starmie: :Latias:

The two most expensive players of the pool met and battled in week 4. SoulWind brought a stallier team, with Alakazam and Reuniclus as its Psychic types, and Forretress for his valuable role compression. Star instead opted for a very offensive rain team, with Nasty Plot Thundurus, Substitute Keldeo and Choice Scarf Latias as its 3 main official threats. Substitute Alakazam wasn’t able to provide much progress to SoulWind, as Latias broke its sub and forced it out. Thundurus at +2 with the double hazard support provided from Ferrothorn was able to do big damage to Blissey, SW’s main special wall. After Gliscor’s sac, Alakazam came in to revenge kill Thundurus and was able to claim Ferrothorn with HP Fire under the rain. On turn 27 Star was able to trick Latias’s Choice Scarf onto Slowbro. This play allowed him to win later, as nothing could stop reliably 3 attacks + Sub Keldeo in the endgame. Star’s team is a team that I’d definitely use, it’s a good take on rain. SoulWind’s team felt somewhat rushed, as it feels weak to strong wallbreakers like Keldeo and it gets punished for its passivity.

[RUI] Prinz vs Finchinator [TIG]

Finchinator’s team: :Tyranitar: :Landorus-Therian: :Ferrothorn: :Latios: :Alakazam::Terrakion:

Prinz’s team: :Tyranitar: :Celebi: :Terrakion: :Excadrill: :Rotom-Wash: :Landorus-Therian:

Prinz made his BW OU debut in week 4 of this SPL after starting out in ADV OU. Both players decided to use Sand teams with Tyranitar and Terrakion as their main wallbreaker, each one taking a different approach. Finch was able to gain a slight advantage right from the lead, as he was able to set both hazards. After Prinz hit two good Close Combats with Choice Band Terrakion, Finchinator was able to pivot in safely his Alakazam, that OHKOd Landorus-T with HP Ice on the switch-in. After losing its only speed control option (Landorus) and then Tyranitar, Prinz found himself very behind and ended up losing. I liked both players takes on a Sand teams with Terrakion, Prinz had Celebi that could help against Rain teams and was able to pivot with Baton Pass, even if it could feel passive in some matchups, while Finchinator had Scarf-less Landorus to check physical attackers and Ferrothorn to help against rain and Dragon type attacks.

[CLA] Dark Eeveon vs Brine [SCO]

Dark Eeveon’s team: :Politoed: :Ferrothorn: :Empoleon: :Keldeo-Resolute: :Landorus-Therian: :Dragonite:

Brine’s team: :Heatran: :Skarmory: :Jellicent: :Latios: :Alakazam: :Tyranitar:

Eeveon brought a unique Rain team, with Substitute+Agility Empoleon as a sweeper, while Brine opted for an offensice team with suicide lead Skarmory and Jellicent to spinblock. The matchup for Brine was pretty bad, especially because Empoleon after an Agility is able to outspeed and heavily damage or OHKO all of his Pokemons if Scarfless. After Latios dropped a Draco Meteor to kill Politoed (as Tyranitar was killed before by Choice Band Dragonite, so Eeveon won the weather war with Rain), Empoleon was able to setup and kill Jellicent with Grass Knot and Scarf Latios too, after using another Agility and getting in Petaya Berry range. A difficult matchup for Brine, and a good one for Eeveon. Empoleon was able to sweep but is easily stopped by Ferrothorn for example, reason why Keldeo and Choice Band Dragonite are there to help him to clean up later in the game by removing his checks.

[WOL] Monai vs Mako [BIG]

Monai and Mako both entered this game still undefeated in this SPL, whose 0 will go away? Mako used a Rain team with Ferrothorn and Scizor as its two Steel types, while Monai opted for a weatherless team with two strong Psychic attackers and more defensive Pokemons, like Clefable, Ferrothorn, and Jellicent. After trading hazards, and with Jellicent presence to spinblock, Monai was able to chip the opposing Scizor and to win, as most of his Pokemon dont take damages from the Spikes, and with the opposing Choice Scarf Pokemon and Ferrothorn gone, Latios and Alakazam were free to attack.

[CRY] GaryTheGengar vs harshest [SHA]

harshest’s team: :Landorus-Therian: :Tyranitar: :Latios: :Ferrothorn: :Reuniclus: :Rotom-Wash:

GaryTheGengar’s team: :Politoed: :Scizor: :Ferrothorn: :Keldeo: :Starmie: :Thundurus-Therian:

harshest brought a similar six to what his opponent sugarhigh used in week 1, while Gary used a Rain team, similar to what Mako used the same week (dual Steel types Scizor and Ferrothorn), but with Starmie as its spinner for more offensive pressure and Keldeo as the main win-condition over Landorus-T. After both players traded hazards, Reuniclus missed a Focus Blast on Thundurus-T, that two turns after was able to claim Landorus-T’s life with HP Ice. After that, with Ferrothorn chipped, Scarf Keldeo was able to sweep for Gary.
 
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[BIG] Mako vs GaryTheGengar [CRY] by Monai

Mako's team: :Tyranitar: :Breloom: :Latios: :Excadrill: :Jirachi: :Landorus-Therian:
GaryTheGengar's team: :Tyranitar: :Keldeo: :Jirachi: :Landorus-Therian: :Latios: :Starmie:

After a lackluster showing for the first half of SPL, it seems that the week of Jirachi’s resurgence has come, with a mirror match to boot. Both players are running hard hitting sands featuring the tried and true core of Latios and Landot, but this time featuring Jirachi as a potential wildcare set and some extra insurance against Psychics. The game is fast paced as expected, with both players nearly losing a Pokemon within the first 5 turns and no hazards set up. GTG’s Keldeo in particular shows why it's such a fearsome anti-offense Pokemon, trading a paralysis on itself to maim half of Mako’s team. In the end, Gary’s Specs Keldeo and faster pace of play snags him a clean win.


[SCO] Brine vs harshest [SHA] by me

harshest's team: :Keldeo: :Tyranitar: :Rotom-Wash: :Excadrill: :Celebi: :Landorus-Therian:
Brine's team: :Excadrill: :Tyranitar: :Slowbro: :Celebi: :Landorus-Therian: :Latios:

Both players were coming off losses, last week harshest lost vs Gary and Brine lost vs Eeeveon, so they were coming in hungrier than ever. The two players decided to bring Sand teams with Tyranitar as their setter, Landorus-T, Excadrill, and Celebi (that helps a lot against Rain teams). harshest chose Keldeo to wallbreak and Rotom-W, with its access to Volt Switch and ability check to opposing Ground types, forming a VoltTurn core with Lando and Celebi's ability to pivot. Brine opted for Slowbro to check physical attackers and Latios for more firepower. Right from the start, harshest pivoting core gave difficulties to Brine, who didn't have many great switch-ins, setting his own Stealth Rock with Tyranitar. Keldeo, without Leftovers, poses a big threat to Brine's team, especially if it is HP Bug, as it would threaten Celebi too. harshest shows his Toxic Excadrill, missing Lando on turn 7. After some U-turn pivoting and a few doubles, harshest was able to spin, sacrificing his Excadrill to the opposing Scarf Landorus' Earthquake, to allow a safe entry point to Keldeo, who kills Tyranitar. After that, Brine is able to setup rocks again with Celebi, offering to his opponent a nice entry point for Tyranitar, who can almost freely click Crunch as Lando and Excadrill are both chipped. On turn 27 Brine sends Latios in, expecting a switch from his opponent, who instead stayed in against his Scarf Excadrill and clicked Crunch again. After that, harshest took a decisive lead and was able to win after defeating Slowbro. I liked both players' approach, they had similar teams. I think the game had some weird turns but it was well played and pretty close.


[TYR] SoulWind vs Monai [WOL] by me

SoulWind's team: :Garchomp: :Jirachi: :Dragonite: :Starmie: :Scizor: :Volcarona:
Monai's team: :Tyranitar: :Latios: :Alakazam: :Landorus-Therian: :Ferrothorn: :Rotom-Wash:

Monai was coming for his fifth win in a row, while SoulWind was looking to get back in the win column after losing to Star the week before. The former brought a pretty standard Sand structure, the "Big 6" (used by Brine in week 3 and Star in week 2); the latter brought an hyper offense team, with Garchomp as the Stealth Rock setter and probably SD Scizor, Dragon Dance Dragonite, Air Balloon Starmie, and Scarf Jirachi. SoulWind's Volcarona has a good matchup, if it can set up it can damage a lot even Tyranitar. Both players traded rocks T1, after Monai pivots with his Scarf Lando, Garchomp at +1 kills Ferrothorn thanks to a critical hit. After Alakazam revenge killed Garchomp but had to switch out to avoid Jirachi's U-turn, Scizor chipped SoulWind's Landorus-T with a crucial Pursuit. Both players traded a Pokemon, and Custap Berry Tyranitar was able to kill and stop Dragonite at +1. After this Monai's Pokemon weren't enough to stop Scarf Jirachi and Volcarona with Landorus-T dead (sacrificed on the turn where Dragonite used Dragon Dance). Monai played pretty well given a difficult matchup, that SoulWind was able to leverage skillfully.


[TIG] Finchinator vs Star [RAI] by Monai

starmaster's team: :Hippowdon: :Reuniclus: :Skarmory: :Heatran: :Clefable: :Latias:
Finchinator's team: :Tyranitar: :Latios: :Heatran: :Ferrothorn: :Landorus-Therian: :Alakazam:

A highly anticipated match between two big names in BW, both players will be looking to make up lost ground. Finch has spent the first half of the season at this point in SS, while Star is looking to improve his record after an unfortunate start to his season. Both players are rocking Sand, Spikes, a Lati Twin, and interestingly a Heatran, but that's where the comparisons end. Finch has taken an aggressive approach to sand, piling it with the special attackers Heatran, Latios, and Lorb Alakazam in order to try and end the game quickly and offset his poor longevity. On the other hand, Star has the iconic Hippo Reuni Clef structure, augmented with a Heatran to help vs Alakazam and Hyper Offense. Star will seek to draw the game out and win through residual and an eventual Reuni sweep, which Finch must be careful of considering his lack of Spin and few opportunities to force Reuni out after it has used Calm Mind. The game starts out well for Star, who successfully draws the Trick away from Reuniclus while very quickly attaining full hazards and even paralysis on Latios and Heatran. Unfortunately for him though, Finch gets a fortuitous full confusion as well as a crit on Reuniclus coming in, sealing Star’s fate once his Heatran’s Balloon has been popped and can be worn down via Spikes.


[CLA] Dark Eeveon vs sugarhigh [RUI] by me

sugarhigh's team: :Hippowdon: :Mew: :Ferrothorn: :Excadrill: :Heatran: :Latios:
Dark Eeveon's team: :Jirachi: :Cresselia: :Virizion: :Excadrill: :Dragonite: :Volcarona:

sugarhigh entered the game looking for his first win, after Prinz played BW last week, while Dark Eeveon wants to win after his loss in week 4. Both players have pretty unique teams. Eeveon has a weatherless offensive structure, boasting two non-OU Pokemon: Cresselia and Virizion. sugarhigh has a bulkier and Sand team with Hippowdon, supported by Mew and Heatran. After trading his Shuca Berry Excadrill for some Rocks removal and damage on Hippowdon, Eeveon sent Virizion, a huge threat for sugarhigh’s team if left unchecked. Following some fast paced back and forth, the turning point came on turns 23-25. sugarhigh’s Heatran trapped the opposing Volcarona with Magma Storm after a crucial Taunt on Cresselia that denied it to use any recovery or status move. Taunt Mew stopped Cresselia from using Lunar Dance in the endgame, that would have offered Virizion a last chance to clean up.
 
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