Resource SV OU Indigo Disk Viability Ranking Thread - (update on post #1193))

[ScribeofRevocis]

I meant outside of the game. It always loses viability. It's proven to suck beyond any doubt. Basically you were fighting with air with that.

What?????

As for the first point. The burn isn't worth it because the opponent still has at the moment a Moltre while unless you're name is Clefable getting burned makes you a sitting duck if you're a physical attacker. Aka. every knock user other than clef.

I mean yea a burn can suck but they have a basically dead weight mon after that knock and you have a burned Scizor. Almost always that knock will be better for your and not the opp.

It’s why Banded Boulder might lowkey be the better set. Booster Speed is extremely tempting with its speed tier, but with its kind of mid unboosted attack and trouble setting up, it’s better to be able to immediately and consistently swing with it than bank on hoping your opponent is asleep at the wheel and let’s you get Swords Dance for free on your first Boulder switchin (while simultaneously not keeping their Gambit alive in the back).

I agree with this one tbh, in my experimenting I found Lorb SD to be the best set as with a lorb boulder actually hits surprisingly hard. boulder is already pretty fast too so it works as a decent cleaner
I could definitely see why you'd say band is the best set tho

 

[LordThemberchaud]

I meant outside of the game. It always loses viability. It's proven to suck beyond any doubt. Basically you were fighting with air with that.
As for the first point. The burn isn't worth it because the opponent still has at the moment a Moltre while unless you're name is Clefable getting burned makes you a sitting duck if you're a physical attacker. Aka. every knock user other than clef.

Just wanted to chime in and say that there are other Knock Off users that don't care about burns, like Gliscor (if it's poisoned), Darkrai, and Walking Wake (who is actually a really good Moltres switch-in IMO). That being said, I do really like Moltres and prefer using it over Zapdos, as it has a much better matchup against Great Tusk and Iron Valiant. I also feel that burns are a lot more useful against Pokemon like Dragonite and Kingambit than paralysis.

 

[Eviolite Bisharp]

I'm going to make a nomination to a mon that i think is very underrated right now

B → B+

The washing machine is not washed and i think it has a very interesting but unexplored niche in the meta, being a really good check to the plethora of bulky Ground types ( ) while also being one of the most consistent checks to thanks to Wisp and being less of Encore fodder than pokemon like and . It is also really good into that has been gaining popularity these days, and it dominates the sand core of and , alongside with important defensive pieces like and . Overall is a very good soft check to many things like , , and for bulky offense teams.

Also almost none of it's checks like or can really take advantage of it because of Volt Switch bringing a partner that can deal with those like or , without mentioning how the Grass types that can deal with it like or are terrified of burns. My only problem with this pokemon is that it is Spikes fodder for , but any competent team should have ways of dealing with the vessel

 

[Rekka's Backend]

It’s why Banded Boulder might lowkey be the better set.

Awhile back I fooled around with Banded Boulder on a whim and it legitimately did feel substantially better. Accurate rockstab off an extremely good speed tier is no joke, and with some chip it was forcing out Corvs or making them tera to avoid a 2HK or OHK. I think it has potential, especially with Tera Blast to fortify its 'click big button and force them to react' style it kinda demanded. Definitely fragile and needed support though.

 

[cat111ca]

When's the next vr update?
Also Pech to S! It holds the tier together