Metagame 1v1 Metagame Discussion

latios777 said:
Is worth runing fairy feather/pixie plate instead of Life orb in some bulky sylveon sets? Seems more optimal but is true that if you miss certain OHKOs this make a huge difference.
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I think it could defenitly be worth and maybe even make the spectrier/lo zapdos mu better but honestly I'm not really sure but it's defenitly a idea that could be tested
 
frogfacts said:
I think it could defenitly be worth and maybe even make the spectrier/lo zapdos mu better but honestly I'm not really sure but it's defenitly a idea that could be tested
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u need the spa on lo to ko atales which is a big deal but on some bulkier ones that dont care then thats fine but i think ur just better off running a different item on those (?) unsure what u would run tho post custap mayb a resist berry
 
glitched said:
u need the spa on lo to ko atales which is a big deal but on some bulkier ones that dont care then thats fine but i think ur just better off running a different item on those (?) unsure what u would run tho post custap mayb a resist berry
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Lifeorb is still okay on bulkier versions for av ursa (see calc below) but other options are like herb or resist berry imo barbiri for random heavy slam from like tusk or hands kebia for like sneas and i LWK can see kee genuinely doing smth if it helps vs woger mirror herb MIGHT be heat for the mirror and blastoise

128 SpA Life Orb Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Beam vs. -2 152 HP / 156 SpD Assault Vest Ursaluna: 413-487 (94 - 110.9%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
 
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thought id go and make a vr post cl because why not ill explain some of my rankings, mostly until whenever I get bored of it.

:urshifu: : i kinda treat it as the same mon in a vr type format because like if you think you can setguess this mon on preview youre really just lying, ofcourse 1 beats crown/gross the other beats grounds and whatever but it doesnt really work like that. But anw i think its the best mon in the tier currently. Its absurdly splashable onto any team ever it can successfully run close to any item i personally like building with water shifu more, i think building with dark shifu requires for more thought to be put into the team, but i think they are both really amazing.

:hoopa unbound: : genuinely just put it here cause im a sheep i think this mon just keeps getting worse and worse its best set is most definitely specs. althought scarf can be cool, but like it doesn't actually belong next to shifu and ursa.

:ursaluna: : second best mon in the tier or the best mon in the tier didnt really use alot of this in cl and also didnt have alot of trouble with beating it but thats also cause i spammed like 10 urshifus this tour its a really good mon but honestly it doesnt have the greatest set diversity i think cb is kinda falling behind and av is bad i could see this falling in the next couple of months.

now to the a tiers which i wont all talk about since its alot and alot of them are just like self explanatory but ill talk about some hot takes

:iron valiant: : its absolutly amazing at responding to scouts bro whatever i said about you val I APOLOGIZE.

:raging bolt: : you could genuinely lower this mon to A- and i wouldnt care tbh. I dont really have a clear opinion on it, but it seems like its somehow always on the right team getting the perfect mu, so thats gotta mean something.

:primarina: : idk if prim A tier is a hot take in 2026 tbh. I think its best set is likely fast lo, max spdef specs or like petaya maybe, but i think this mon is pretty awkward rn idt its the greatest.

:iron moth: : moth A tier might also be a hot take but i think its a really amazing mon. To me its 1 of the best mons where you can just be like "ill just slap a random scarf on it and pray" and make it work out. Also pherb is cool, spatk booster is cool and specs is less cool but usable ig all in all i like it.

:roaring moon: / :dragapult: : kinda wanna talk about both of them. Both deserve their A tier obviously, but i think currently moon is the best dragon in the tier. I quite dislike pult tbh but all my teams somehow manage to lose to it for some reason, but it never looks like it 3-0s is kinda the problem with it, its quite hard to click alot of the time.

:annihilape: / :sneasler: : another 2 mons who i think most people would have lower but both of these, everytime i load them they are absolutely amazing, they get amazing previews. Especially sneasler its really great into alot of people their scout I also really love annihilape its really amazing i love taunt counter, i love low sweep wp, i love sitrus, i love cb all of its sets feel really amazing, but its quite easy to tech alot of the time tho is the 1 problem I have with it but nobody techs annihilape in this day and age.

:pecharunt: : not much to say except its a potential mon. It has the potential to be a S tier but the way its used rn it can chill in the A tiers.

:florges: : maybe A tier is a overexxegaration, but its the second best fairy in the tier if we stop only using lefties/scarf tho.

:sylveon: : its is just on a downwards spiral man. First she got divorced with yawn now they took her child custap berry next they are prolly banning pixalite or smth.

:manaphy: /:iron hands: : 2 mons i think are pretty horrible they are both extremely easy to beat and are very linear. Both of them suffered heavily from custap ban imo.

:scizor: : think its quite bad. Only reason i put it here is because it was like top 10 most used mon in cl with a pretty good winrate so it seems to be a winning pokemon

:corviknight:/:chien pao: : these 2 are kinda just like really bad corv tries to be quirky and have set diversity on preview by using offensive but offensive corv is the easiest set to read on preview so instead you just get a really bad mon who beats 3 pokemon and chp takes absolutely 0 ohkos just use meow man ice shard prio is NOT that important.

:moltres galar:/:landorus therian:/:skeledirge: : really trash dirge is probably the best of the bunch purely because it can run fast wisp balloon successfully

:greninja: : a really good pokemon to mid series cteam with if you want it to beat something it most likely can but just dont expect it to beat anything else. I think a great example of this is me vs fancy g5, right before the game i made it choice scarf to beat fancy his encore disable val i was expecting him to load but in doing so it meant my greninja who was supposed to beat spectrier + zarude now actually lost to both of them but did beat the iron valiant.

:walking wake: : genuinely really horrible it actually does nothing it never hits hurricane it beats corv nice it beats the c tier but you cant even run speedbooster cause otherwise you lose to corv genuinly id put this as low as C tier but i dont wanna get kicked off VRC.

everything in C tier and below could honestly be UR bar a few pokemon.

OVERALL THOUGHTS ON SV THIS TOUR
i didnt really have alot of fun building tbh but i think thats more a personal issue then a issue with the tier i had a great time in finals tho together with ollie we also didnt really have alot of sv games this tour to form a opinion of the meta it was just 6 people circlejerking trying to beat eachother hope pl gives us a more clear understanding of the meta post custap

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Few thoughts on SV mons from my observations during CL. DISCLAIMER: I did not actively build teams that much but did quite a bit of setbuilding and watched a lot of games.
Disclaimer 2: My metric for how good a mon is = the ability to respond to scouts. Nature of SV 1v1 in 2026.

:zapdos: - Amulet sets feel too fast, Im not sure why you need that much speed so often (Comp is for pz apparently?). More bulk probably means a better bolt MU. Secondly, Discharge is probably straight up better on most teams since ur not dropping your val odds by that much.

:ursaluna: - I feel like you can probably run bold AV. The single most "can do whatever it wants" mon in the tier.

:raging bolt: - Sets feel too slow. Tclap is still good for sneasler hoopa etc. but you should definitely try out fast/max speed taunt + cm.

:pecharunt: - Extremely broken mon, esp considering most teams are using the same 1-2 mons to check it. You can experiment a LOT with the move slots. Night shade, defence curl, imprison, spite all have great use cases and these are just the most surface level ones. Hell, I'll even use toxic + astonish on ladder sometimes w/ a fast set. Very underexplored and the fact that it can bs itself out of so many matchups is just insane.

:corviknight: - offensive is ass pls stop using it custap was the last of the good offensive sets. I think maranga is genuinely good (even though im inherently opposed to using critbait) but PLEASE stop trying to make it beat specs prim just be fast instead of 252 hp 252+ spdef nonsense.

:iron valiant: :sylveon: :ninetales-alola: :florges: Non-prim fairies have gotten much better, especially val. I think sylveon maintains its niche as the bulkiest of them. Ninetales is fine, florges is really really good because it can do a million things while almost always having a pos MU into other fairies.

:scizor: - this mon rises in usage every tour because ppl forget to account for it. I think sub is a really cool tech tho and its ability to get good matchups into moon ursa hoopa val shifus etc is really good with the caveat that most of those can completely reverse the matchup with 1 moveslot. But the fact that they have to dedicate a moveslot to you makes it worth getting on your usage.

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:snorlax: - EDIT: I take everything back

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Good points from Valin, I cannot refute them*. I'll just say that we have never really played with Snorlax in a Custap-less meta, so currently its brokenness is still theoretical.

I suggest we free it for ladder only (keep it banned for tours), give us a couple of weeks to explore it fully and form opinions based on concrete situations, then run a suspect.

*Edit: I do see a clear 4MSS though.
 
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