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OM FRLG OU (Sand Veil Banned)
- Thread starter Yak Attack
- Start date
Oh thank you very much this will make the tournament a lot more playable
because normally soundproof is banned. skarm cant have both whirlwind and drill peck, so to avoid revealing that you dont have peck, normally, roar is used
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen3frlgou-2576744479-b52b0groj8wvme5fcsp888tkufgcxwhpw
ask yourself if this is the meta you want to see in the world
ask yourself if this is the meta you want to see in the world
Agenda posting zzz. I mean, yeah, you're gonna lose if you switch a slept mon in and kick back while your opponent sets up lol
I have been enjoying the ladder so I have brought a gift:
I noticed there wasn't a VR, so I made a tiermaker so people can make their own. This has all FE mons as well as a couple NFE mons, so it should also work for any lower tiers or playthrough discussions people might want to do. Just click me! I will be posting my own personal VR later, there is still a ton that I want to test.
good luck in the tournament everyone, wish I could have joined
I noticed there wasn't a VR, so I made a tiermaker so people can make their own. This has all FE mons as well as a couple NFE mons, so it should also work for any lower tiers or playthrough discussions people might want to do. Just click me! I will be posting my own personal VR later, there is still a ton that I want to test.
good luck in the tournament everyone, wish I could have joined
i think stating the opinion of disliking baton pass meta is not unreasonable
i also dislike speed pass
Thank you for this resource!
Yes, I like it. Seems like you got outplayed and you lost because of it.
Would I prefer to always win even if I do get outplayed? Sure. Winning is nice. But I can settle for a fair metagame where getting outplayed can get you a loss.
byeee
I've used a team like this a few times and I like it.
Even without using Magneton it does decent against Skarmory. Vaporeon with +2 Speed Roars Skarmory out, Jolteon can either Roar or Thunder (which 1HKOs if Jolteon is Modest with 208 SpA), Venonat Sleep Powders, Mr. Mime Taunts, and after a Belly Drum Marowak 1HKOs with Focus Punch.
And if Skarmory opts for Roar instead of Whirlwind (which it seems most do) any Baton Passer can use Mr. Mime's Soundproof.
As for Marowak's spread, I think 208 HP / 80 Atk / 220 Spe ; Jolly is good.
With this spread Earthquake at +4 has 50% chance to 1HKO +Def Natured Cloyster with 252 HP EVs and 252 Def EVs and Focus Punch at +4 1HKOs Skarmory.
And with this spread Marowak without Substitute can set up in front of Jolly Tyranitar with 252 Atk EVs and survive Brick Brick, Rock Slide, and Earthquake while Tyranitar's Focus Punch only has a 93.8% to kill.
It also grants odd HP which is nice when you Belly Drum from full HP.
We're talking about banning King's Rock in the Discord. It's mostly used on Dugtrio with Beat Up. Gives about a 47% chance of flinch, which is really annoying
Venonat is missing from the tiermaker. Venonat is worth having because he's arguably better than Venomoth due to Compound Eyes making him better on BP-chains.