I’m tryna get reqs to ban tera blast where’s all the SPL dumps fr
Yes, but that’s not a public discussion to have mid-suspect test.I know im getting ahead of myself, but will there be consideration for past bans to be reviewed should tera blast be banned?
Well chien-pao is just an entirely different issue, that's not tera blast that's just doing a STAB tera for one of its moves lolI know im getting ahead of myself, but will there be consideration for past bans to be reviewed should tera blast be banned?
One step at a time tho I guess...
Common considerations:
Volc - Coverage issues w/o tera blast and/or no guessing games needed for which tera it is running
Espartha - Coverage issues but probs still way too op anyway hey.
Chien-Pao - Im in the hot take group that think tera-dark crunch pushed it over the edge, it removed a bad half of its typing while just turning many 2ko's to 1ko's
Regieleki - probably the only realistic unban I guess but one I can hope we can be brave and see how we go.
Probs a waste of time to theorymon till we see what result happens.
Happy suspecting!
You answered your own question;can someone tell me how removing tera blasts makes the metsgsme
1. any better
2. any different from a no gimmick metagame
its very difficult to counter tera fairy dragonite at the same time as tera normal, tera flying, you essentially team build to have a harder time against 66% of dragonites to avoid losing to 33% of them. If it was only tera fairy dragonite we wouldn't be discussing this, if it was only tera ground volcarona we wouldn't have banned it over sending out dragapult to deal with it or something. Infact before DLC volcarona wasn't even as bad because it was pretty much defaulting to tera water most of the time but as more shit was added it flexed fairy/water/ground/STABfire/ice.. etc. On one hand that in theory means volc would've been held back because it had 4MSS but on the other it made it borderline RNG from an opposing perception how you're supposed to counter it.sure tera fairy dnite is horrible but it’s very (not easily) but very counterable.
are most offensive tera’s still not walled by every major and most used offensive threats tho? genuine question just based off what i’ve seenYou answered your own question;
its very difficult to counter tera fairy dragonite at the same time as tera normal, tera flying, you essentially team build to have a harder time against 66% of dragonites to avoid losing to 33% of them. If it was only tera fairy dragonite we wouldn't be discussing this, if it was only tera ground volcarona we wouldn't have banned it over sending out dragapult to deal with it or something. Infact before DLC volcarona wasn't even as bad because it was pretty much defaulting to tera water most of the time but as more shit was added it flexed fairy/water/ground/STABfire/ice etc.
Tera blast removal makes it so even if dragonite tera fairies, it doesn't literally setup and beat your garchomp to a pulp, it just means the garchomp has to deal with it using ground instead of dragon. Same for kingambit which was just allowed to turn any type than follow it up with a move it can actually uno reverse with instead of just making your opponent use a different coverage move on their pokemon. Kyurem similar your typical "ice/dragon" answers when looking at its movepool should be safe but there's a percentage that randomly have this coverage move to outright kill them effortlessly.. it feels awful being forced to overthink what potential teras it can be and lose just because you gambled the wrong slot, it makes the matchup always feel like damned if you do damned if you don't which is not skill based at all.
Because defensive Tera and Tera with natural coverage still exists? What does this even meanany different from a no gimmick metagame
No, they are not walled by most threats, and tera blast is not the main use case for tera, most of the time people use it either defensively to stop something from snowballing out of control, or to tank a hit and set up and then try to end the game. People dislike it because it is uncommon enough to be very effective for matchup fishing, though I think as we have come to better understand the meta, tera blast is a little better telegraphed these days and not necessarily always a fish.are most offensive tera’s still not walled by every major and most used offensive threats tho? genuine question just based off what i’ve seen
It has come to my attentionAt the behest of my good friend cala_aa here is my teamdump from SPL
Week 1 vs Hellom
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"Bro did you know that Great Tusk gets play rough"
"Yes but then you don't beat Corviknight 1v1."
I spent probably 30 hours prepping for Hellom week 1, then I immediately started a new job the day after the game. Turns out employment is an insane nerf to mons playing, I prolly didn't prep that much the entire rest of the season combined lmfao
Week 2 vs PDT
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This is a beast team, I think lax was the one who made the original 6, I made it expert belt darkrai and changed the val set a bit
Week 3 vs Axzel
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This team is legitimately dogshit, easily the week of prep I regret the most, I locked in the kyurem set the moment I knew I was facing Axzel (who had like 80+% Zama/Pech usage in the recent months and wanted to cook him with sheist tech. It failed by 1) Him bringing neither and 2) being completely fucking walled by his skarmory. Team got deleted from my builder immediately after
Week 4 vs Ewin
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Had a feeling ewin would try to Sun me, and he did, got the matchup I wanted, unfortunately as *some* of you may have seen I choked on the sweatiest balls on the planet and suicided my cresselia for no reason in the endgame because I spent all my timer calcing Zama Body Press calcs on tera fairy Wake, and when I switched back tabs there was 3 seconds on the timer and I just panic clicked, and when the dust cleared my Cress committed seppuku. Shoutout to wof for humbling me
Week 5 vs LpZ
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ima made this one, shoutouts to my boy for his goated OST run, unfortunately has a dicks matchup into sun and thats what LpZ brought, although I made goat plays and gave myself a shot to win until this garbage ass Cinderace missed double wisp on Gambit in the endgame
Week 6 vs Storm Zone
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I think either ACR1 or JUST ONE GALATINA made this, I don't remember, saved in my builder as "cringe ass fat team." Shit's pretty cheap tho, good for laddering with
Week 7 vs MANNAT
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Easily my favorite team I built during SPL, and I was under a lot of pressure and badly needed a win for my own sanity after having lost 5 straight so I brought the best shit I had. This team is fucking cheap and absolutely smokes ladder. Any noob can autopilot this to 2k without even thinking, this shit is fucking monstrous
Week 8 vs Fogbound Lake
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I did zero prep this week so I just brought the cheapest team in SVOU history, shoutouts Blim and CTC for making this cancer ass shit
Week 9 vs kdca
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Same as week 8, I threw this together the night before the game and it seemed pretty strong, had some help from Vert and ima, pretty decent team tho
All in all a very disappointing season for me, I definitely choked a few games, had some bad RNG in others, very much a learning experience. SPL is really a grind. Hope some people enjoy using these on ladder
ALSO: BAN TERA BLAST. GET REQS, VOTE BAN. SAVE OUR TIER
It has come to my attention that my dragapult on the week 7 team has 0 attack IVs. I have been running this shit for 2 months now and this is the paste i brought to spl lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooAt the behest of my good friend cala_aa here is my teamdump from SPL
Week 1 vs Hellom
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"Bro did you know that Great Tusk gets play rough"
"Yes but then you don't beat Corviknight 1v1."
I spent probably 30 hours prepping for Hellom week 1, then I immediately started a new job the day after the game. Turns out employment is an insane nerf to mons playing, I prolly didn't prep that much the entire rest of the season combined lmfao
Week 2 vs PDT
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This is a beast team, I think lax was the one who made the original 6, I made it expert belt darkrai and changed the val set a bit
Week 3 vs Axzel
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This team is legitimately dogshit, easily the week of prep I regret the most, I locked in the kyurem set the moment I knew I was facing Axzel (who had like 80+% Zama/Pech usage in the recent months and wanted to cook him with sheist tech. It failed by 1) Him bringing neither and 2) being completely fucking walled by his skarmory. Team got deleted from my builder immediately after
Week 4 vs Ewin
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Had a feeling ewin would try to Sun me, and he did, got the matchup I wanted, unfortunately as *some* of you may have seen I choked on the sweatiest balls on the planet and suicided my cresselia for no reason in the endgame because I spent all my timer calcing Zama Body Press calcs on tera fairy Wake, and when I switched back tabs there was 3 seconds on the timer and I just panic clicked, and when the dust cleared my Cress committed seppuku. Shoutout to wof for humbling me
Week 5 vs LpZ
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ima made this one, shoutouts to my boy for his goated OST run, unfortunately has a dicks matchup into sun and thats what LpZ brought, although I made goat plays and gave myself a shot to win until this garbage ass Cinderace missed double wisp on Gambit in the endgame
Week 6 vs Storm Zone
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I think either ACR1 or JUST ONE GALATINA made this, I don't remember, saved in my builder as "cringe ass fat team." Shit's pretty cheap tho, good for laddering with
Week 7 vs MANNAT
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Easily my favorite team I built during SPL, and I was under a lot of pressure and badly needed a win for my own sanity after having lost 5 straight so I brought the best shit I had. This team is fucking cheap and absolutely smokes ladder. Any noob can autopilot this to 2k without even thinking, this shit is fucking monstrous
Week 8 vs Fogbound Lake
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I did zero prep this week so I just brought the cheapest team in SVOU history, shoutouts Blim and CTC for making this cancer ass shit
Week 9 vs kdca
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Same as week 8, I threw this together the night before the game and it seemed pretty strong, had some help from Vert and ima, pretty decent team tho
All in all a very disappointing season for me, I definitely choked a few games, had some bad RNG in others, very much a learning experience. SPL is really a grind. Hope some people enjoy using these on ladder
ALSO: BAN TERA BLAST. GET REQS, VOTE BAN. SAVE OUR TIER
I think tera blast is surely worse (aka scarier, edit: I'm interpreting worse to mean more oppressive in the way you used it), or at least more difficult to prep or plan for mid battle. Encore you can scout more easily or at least plan around i.e., don't set up or use the wrong move until you know it can't encore you. Tera type is a lot more difficult to plan for. Sure sometimes you lose bc the dnite encores you but encore helps it abuse DD + tera blast more.Is tera blast or encore worse on Dragonite? Could write a ten page essay on my thoughts about encore this gen but encores strength is really just the synergy with tera I guess