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Metagame Champions DOU (Archaludon banned, Now with VR and samples!)

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:charizard-mega-y: Champions DOU :floette-mega:​


By popular demand and the recent release of Champions, we're starting a champions DOU format! Champions DOU will allow for only the use of Pokemon and items in Pokemon Champions, similar to the implementation of Champions OU. This format is unofficial and does not currently have an implementation on Pokemon Showdown, so we will be using the following challenge code for games:

Code: 
/challenge gen9championsvgc2026regmc@@@-Basculegion-M,-Espathra,Evasion Moves Clause,OHKO Clause,Gravity Sleep Clause,Endless Battle Clause,!Open Team Sheets,!Timer Starting,!Timer Grace,!Timer Add Per Turn,!Timer Max Per Turn,!Timer Max First Turn,!Item Clause,!Picked Team Size,!Min Team Size


List of Pokemon: https://web-view.app.pokemonchampions.jp/battle/pages/events/rs177501629259kmzbny/en/pokemon.html
:venusaur: Venusaur
:charizard: Charizard
:blastoise: Blastoise
:beedrill: Beedrill
:pidgeot: Pidgeot
:arbok: Arbok
:pikachu: Pikachu
:raichu: Raichu
:raichu-alola: Raichu-Alola
:clefable: Clefable
:ninetales: Ninetales
:ninetales-alola: Ninetales-Alola
:arcanine: Arcanine
:arcanine-hisui: Arcanine-Hisui
:alakazam: Alakazam
:machamp: Machamp
:victreebel: Victreebel
:slowbro: Slowbro
:slowbro-galar: Slowbro-Galar
:gengar: Gengar
:kangaskhan: Kangaskhan
:starmie: Starmie
:pinsir: Pinsir
:tauros: Tauros
:tauros-paldea-combat: Tauros-Paldea
:gyarados: Gyarados
:ditto: Ditto
:vaporeon: Vaporeon
:jolteon: Jolteon
:flareon: Flareon
:aerodactyl: Aerodactyl
:snorlax: Snorlax
:dragonite: Dragonite
:meganium: Meganium
:typhlosion: Typhlosion
:typhlosion-hisui: Typhlosion-Hisui
:feraligatr: Feraligatr
:ariados: Ariados
:ampharos: Ampharos
:azumarill: Azumarill
:politoed: Politoed
:espeon: Espeon
:umbreon: Umbreon
:slowking: Slowking
:slowking-galar: Slowking-Galar
:forretress: Forretress
:steelix: Steelix
:scizor: Scizor
:heracross: Heracross
:skarmory: Skarmory
:houndoom: Houndoom
:tyranitar: Tyranitar
:pelipper: Pelipper
:gardevoir: Gardevoir
:sableye: Sableye
:aggron: Aggron
:medicham: Medicham
:manectric: Manectric
:sharpedo: Sharpedo
:camerupt: Camerupt
:altaria: Altaria
:milotic: Milotic
:castform: Castform
:chimecho: Chimecho
:absol: Absol
:glalie: Glalie
:torterra: Torterra
:infernape: Infernape
:empoleon: Empoleon
:luxray: Luxray
:roserade: Roserade
:rampardos: Rampardos
:bastiodon: Bastiodon
:lopunny: Lopunny
:garchomp: Garchomp
:lucario: Lucario
:hippowdon: Hippowdon
:toxicroak: Toxicroak
:abomasnow: Abomasnow
:weavile: Weavile
:rhyperior: Rhyperior
:leafeon: Leafeon
:glaceon: Glaceon
:gliscor: Gliscor
:mamoswine: Mamoswine
:gallade: Gallade
:froslass: Froslass
:rotom: Rotom
:serperior: Serperior
:emboar: Emboar
:samurott: Samurott
:samurott-hisui: Samurott-Hisui
:watchog: Watchog
:liepard: Liepard
:simisage: Simisage
:simisear: Simisear
:simipour: Simipour
:excadrill: Excadrill
:audino: Audino
:conkeldurr: Conkeldurr
:whimsicott: Whimsicott
:krookodile: Krookodile
:cofagrigus: Cofagrigus
:garbodor: Garbodor
:zoroark: Zoroark
:zoroark-hisui: Zoroark-Hisui
:reuniclus: Reuniclus
:vanilluxe: Vanilluxe
:emolga: Emolga
:chandelure: Chandelure
:beartic: Beartic
:stunfisk: Stunfisk
:stunfisk-galar: Stunfisk-Galar
:golurk: Golurk
:hydreigon: Hydreigon
:volcarona: Volcarona
:chesnaught: Chesnaught
:delphox: Delphox
:greninja: Greninja
:diggersby: Diggersby
:talonflame: Talonflame
:vivillon: Vivillon
:floette: Floette
:florges: Florges
:pangoro: Pangoro
:furfrou: Furfrou
:meowstic: Meowstic
:aegislash: Aegislash
:aromatisse: Aromatisse
:slurpuff: Slurpuff
:clawitzer: Clawitzer
:heliolisk: Heliolisk
:tyrantrum: Tyrantrum
:aurorus: Aurorus
:sylveon: Sylveon
:hawlucha: Hawlucha
:dedenne: Dedenne
:goodra: Goodra
:goodra-hisui: Goodra-Hisui
:klefki: Klefki
:trevenant: Trevenant
:gourgeist: Gourgeist
:avalugg: Avalugg
:avalugg-hisui: Avalugg-Hisui
:noivern: Noivern
:decidueye: Decidueye
:decidueye-hisui: Decidueye-Hisui
:incineroar: Incineroar
:primarina: Primarina
:toucannon: Toucannon
:crabominable: Crabominable
:lycanroc: Lycanroc
:toxapex: Toxapex
:mudsdale: Mudsdale
:araquanid: Araquanid
:salazzle: Salazzle
:tsareena: Tsareena
:oranguru: Oranguru
:passimian: Passimian
:mimikyu: Mimikyu
:drampa: Drampa
:kommo-o: Kommo-o
:corviknight: Corviknight
:flapple: Flapple
:appletun: Appletun
:sandaconda: Sandaconda
:polteageist: Polteageist
:hatterene: Hatterene
:mr-rime: Mr. Rime
:runerigus: Runerigus
:alcremie: Alcremie
:morpeko: Morpeko
:dragapult: Dragapult
:wyrdeer: Wyrdeer
:kleavor: Kleavor
:basculegion: Basculegion
:basculegion-f: Basculegion-F
:sneasler: Sneasler
:meowscarada: Meowscarada
:skeledirge: Skeledirge
:quaquaval: Quaquaval
:maushold: Maushold
:garganacl: Garganacl
:armarouge: Armarouge
:ceruledge: Ceruledge
:scovillain: Scovillain
:espathra: Espathra
:tinkaton: Tinkaton
:palafin: Palafin
:glimmora: Glimmora
:farigiraf: Farigiraf
:kingambit: Kingambit
:sinistcha: Sinistcha
:archaludon: Archaludon
:hydrapple: Hydrapple

Megas:
:venusaur-mega: Mega Venusaur
:blastoise-mega: Mega Blastoise
:charizard-mega-x: Mega Charizard X
:charizard-mega-y: Mega Charizard Y
:beedrill-mega: Mega Beedrill
:pidgeot-mega: Mega Pidgeot
:clefable-mega: Mega Clefable
:alakazam-mega: Mega Alakazam
:victreebel-mega: Mega Victreebel
:slowbro-mega: Mega Slowbro
:gengar-mega: Mega Gengar
:kangaskhan-mega: Mega Kangaskhan
:starmie-mega: Mega Starmie
:pinsir-mega: Mega Pinsir
:gyarados-mega: Mega Gyarados
:aerodactyl-mega: Mega Aerodactyl
:dragonite-mega: Mega Dragonite
:meganium-mega: Mega Meganium
:feraligatr-mega: Mega Feraligatr
:ampharos-mega: Mega Ampharos
:steelix-mega: Mega Steelix
:scizor-mega: Mega Scizor
:heracross-mega: Mega Heracross
:skarmory-mega: Mega Skarmory
:houndoom-mega: Mega Houndoom
:tyranitar-mega: Mega Tyranitar
:gardevoir-mega: Mega Gardevoir
:sableye-mega: Mega Sableye
:aggron-mega: Mega Aggron
:manectric-mega: Mega Manectric
:sharpedo-mega: Mega Sharpedo
:camerupt-mega: Mega Camerupt
:altaria-mega: Mega Altaria
:chimecho-mega: Mega Chimecho
:glalie-mega: Mega Glalie
:lopunny-mega: Mega Lopunny
:garchomp-mega: Mega Garchomp
:lucario-mega: Mega Lucario
:abomasnow-mega: Mega Abomasnow
:gallade-mega: Mega Gallade
:froslass-mega: Mega Froslass
:emboar-mega: Mega Emboar
:excadrill-mega: Mega Excadrill
:audino-mega: Mega Audino
:chandelure-mega: Mega Chandelure
:golurk-mega: Mega Golurk
:chesnaught-mega: Mega Chesnaught
:delphox-mega: Mega Delphox
:greninja-mega: Mega Greninja
:floette-mega: Mega Floette
:meowstic-m-mega: Mega Meowstic-M
:hawlucha-mega: Mega Hawlucha
:crabominable-mega: Mega Crabominable
:drampa-mega: Mega Drampa
:scovillain: Mega Scovillain
:glimmora-mega: Mega Glimmora

Play Restrictions:
  • Endless Battle Clause: Players cannot use any moveset on any Pokémon capable of intentionally causing an endless battle. Thus:
    • A Pokémon may not carry Recycle and hold a Leppa Berry in conjunction with Heal Pulse and Milk Drink, Moonlight, Morning Sun, Recover, Roost, Slack Off, Soft-Boiled, or Wish.
    • A Pokémon may not hold a Leppa Berry while carrying Recycle and Pain Split.
    • A Pokémon may not hold a Leppa Berry while carrying Recycle and Fling
  • Evasion Moves Clause: Players cannot use the moves Double Team or Minimize.
  • OHKO Clause: Players cannot use the moves Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill, or Sheer Cold.
  • Species Clause: Players cannot have two Pokémon with the same Pokédex number on the same team.
  • Gravity Sleep Clause: Sleep moves with below one hundred percent accuracy may not be used in conjunction with Gravity.



Banned Pokemon:
:Basculegion: Basculegion-M
:Espathra: Espathra
:Archaludon: Archaludon
Banned Moves:
Evasion Moves (minimize/double team)


Unofficial Council:
Akaru Kokuyo
Ann
eragon
LogIce
Nails
Nido-Rus
Schister
Xrn
zoe

No specific discord for this, but discussion will take place in the Doubles Discord!
 
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Sample Teams:

Setup Mega Floette Balance by Xrn
:Floette-Mega: :incineroar: :Sinistcha: :sneasler: :garchomp: :Kingambit:

Mega Salamence MausApe by Schister
:Salamence-Mega: :Annihilape: :Maushold: :Glimmora-Mega: :Garchomp: :Tinkaton:

Staraptor Sand by zoe
:Staraptor-Mega: :Tyranitar: :Excadrill: :Primarina: :sinistcha: :Incineroar:

Salamence Sand by zoe
:Salamence-Mega: :Tyranitar: :Excadrill: :Primarina: :Incineroar: :Rillaboom:

Gardevoir Psyspam by Xrn
:Gardevoir-Mega: :Indeedee-F: :Sneasler: :Basculegion-F: :Talonflame: :Garchomp:

Yard Venu by eragon
:Charizard-Mega-Y: :Venusaur: :Farigiraf: :Sylveon: :Incineroar: :Garchomp:

Staraptor Balance by eragon
:Staraptor-Mega: :Rotom-Wash: :Glimmora: :Gholdengo: :Incineroar: :Sinistcha:

Setup Mega Delphox by Schister with edits from Nails
:Delphox-Mega: :Sneasler: :Garchomp: :Kingambit: :Incineroar: :Sinistcha:

Gengar Screens by Xrn
:Gengar-Mega: :Kommo-o: :Ninetales-Alola: :Lycanroc-Dusk: :Volcarona: :Rillaboom:

VGC Double Weather by eragon
:Charizard-Mega-Y: :Sneasler: :Grimmsnarl: :Sinistcha: :Pelipper: :Archaludon: (archaludon banned)
 
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VIABILITY RANKINGS:

Tier 1
:Garchomp: Garchomp
:Incineroar: Incineroar
:Kingambit: Kingambit
:Rillaboom: Rillaboom

Tier 2
:Gholdengo: Gholdengo
:Glimmora: Glimmora
:Charizard-Mega-Y: Mega Charizard Y
:Floette-Mega: Mega Floette
:Gengar-Mega: Mega Gengar
:Salamence-Mega: Mega Salamence
:Staraptor-Mega: Mega Staraptor
:Pelipper: Pelipper
:Sneasler: Sneasler
:Sylveon: Sylveon


Tier 3
:Annihilape: Annihilape
:Arcanine-Hisui: Arcanine-Hisui
:Basculegion-F: Basculegion-F
:Farigiraf: Farigiraf
:Grimmsnarl: Grimmsnarl
:Delphox-Mega: Mega Delphox
:Garchomp-Mega-Z: Mega Garchomp Z
:Gardevoir-Mega: Mega Gardevoir
:Milotic: Milotic
:Politoed: Politoed
:Sinistcha: Sinistcha
:Tyranitar: Tyranitar
:Venusaur: Venusaur
:Volcarona: Volcarona
:Whimsicott: Whimsicott

Tier 4
:Aerodactyl: Aerodactyl
:Dragapult: Dragapult
:Excadrill: Excadrill
:Hatterene: Hatterene
:Houndstone: Houndstone
:Kommo-o: Kommo-o
:Maushold: Maushold
:Aerodactyl-Mega: Mega Aerodactyl
:Blastoise-Mega: Mega Blastoise
:Camerupt-Mega: Mega Camerupt
:Froslass-Mega: Mega Froslass
:Glimmora-Mega: Mega Glimmora
:Golisopod-Mega: Mega Golisopod
:Metagross-Mega: Mega Metagross
:Raichu-Mega-Y: Mega Raichu Y
:Swampert-Mega: Mega Swampert
:Ninetales-Alola: Ninetales-Alola
:Primarina: Primarina
:Sableye: Sableye
:Talonflame: Talonflame
:Torkoal: Torkoal
:Vivillon: Vivillon

Tier 5
:Aegislash: Aegislash
:Araquanid: Araquanid
:Armarouge: Armarouge
:Baxcalibur: Baxcalibur
:Ceruledge: Ceruledge
:Clefable: Clefable
:Corviknight: Corviknight
:Dragonite: Dragonite
:Floette-Eternal: Floette-Eternal
:Gallade: Gallade
:Garganacl: Garganacl
:Goodra-Hisui: Goodra-Hisui
:Gyarados: Gyarados
:Hydreigon: Hydreigon
:Kleavor: Kleavor
:Klefki: Klefki
:Lycanroc-Dusk: Lycanroc-Dusk
:Mamoswine: Mamoswine
:Baxcalibur-Mega: Mega Baxcalibur
:Blaziken-Mega: Mega Blaziken
:Dragonite-Mega: Mega Dragonite
:Kangaskhan-Mega: Mega Kangaskhan
:Lucario-Mega-Z: Mega Lucario Z
:Meowstic-M-Mega: Mega Meowstic
:Raichu-Mega-X: Mega Raichu X
:Scovillain-Mega: Mega Scovillain
:Starmie-Mega: Mega Starmie
:Tyranitar-Mega: Mega Tyranitar
:Meowscarada: Meowscarada
:Metagross: Metagross
:Palafin: Palafin
:Rotom-Heat: Rotom-Heat
:Rotom-Wash: Rotom-Wash
:Salamence: Salamence
:Swampert: Swampert
:Tauros-Paldea-Aqua: Tauros-Paldea-Aqua
:Tinkaton: Tinkaton
:Toxapex: Toxapex
:Tsareena: Tsareena
 
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Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't your challenge code remove the level limit, the item clause and the minimum team size enforced by Champions? You also mention the OHKO Clause but it is not in the challenge code.

This would be the corresponding code:
/challenge gen9championsvgc2026regma@@@!Flat Rules,!VGC Timer,!Open Team Sheets,Standard AG,Nickname Clause,OHKO Clause,Evasion Moves Clause,Gravity Sleep Clause
 
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Haven't played yet but some ban/suspect predictions

Basculegion Ban: Last Respects is dumb in VGC with 4 pokemon already and in dou it's just gonna be even more nuclear with 6 pokemon :sob:

Floette Suspect: I can see this being suspect tested but I feel like at it's a lot more manageable than it seems (tho DOU being 6v6 would allow for more support on it)

Espartha Suspect: may not be as bad as it was without grassy seed or terrains as SV, but it's basically still gonna be a cheese enabler for floette and charizard y

Gengar Mega Suspect: Perish Trap with gengar is very unhealthy and the teams using it often are very matchup-fishy which isn't very fun to fight, though it may be harder to pull off in DOU because Gengar is the only trapper, though DOU also banned Shadow Tag when it was just Gothitelle so who knows
 
Was bored, made a roomtour and pinged the VGC room to get players, I played this :gengar::kommo-o::incineroar::whimsicott::sneasler::kingambit:
It's Kommo-o with answers to Floette, Shuca Berry for Garchomp and ways to take advantage of Shadow Tag.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2628251403
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2628254782

Here's the code to launch more :
/tour new gen9championsvgc2026regma, elimination
/tour rules Evasion Moves Clause,Gravity Sleep Clause,Endless Battle Clause,!Open Team Sheets,!Timer Starting,!Timer Grace,!Timer Add Per Turn,!Timer Max Per Turn,!Timer Max First Turn,!Item Clause,!Picked Team Size,!Min Team Size
/tour name Champions DOU
 
ratpacker said:
Here's the code to launch more :
/tour new gen9championsvgc2026regma, elimination
/tour rules Evasion Moves Clause,Gravity Sleep Clause,Endless Battle Clause,!Open Team Sheets,!Timer Starting,!Timer Grace,!Timer Add Per Turn,!Timer Max Per Turn,!Timer Max First Turn,!Item Clause,!Picked Team Size,!Min Team Size
/tour name Champions DOU
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here's a (reg b) version w/ tour + chalcode:
/chall gen9championsvgc2026regmb@@@Evasion Moves Clause,Gravity Sleep Clause,Endless Battle Clause,!Open Team Sheets,!Timer Starting,!Timer Grace,!Timer Add Per Turn,!Timer Max Per Turn,!Timer Max First Turn,!Picked Team Size
/tour new gen9championsvgc2026regmb, elimination
/tour rules Evasion Moves Clause,Gravity Sleep Clause,Endless Battle Clause,!Open Team Sheets,!Timer Starting,!Timer Grace,!Timer Add Per Turn,!Timer Max Per Turn,!Timer Max First Turn,!Picked Team Size
/tour name [Champions] Doubles OU
 
Clas said:
here's a (reg b) version w/ tour + chalcode:
/chall gen9championsvgc2026regmb@@@Evasion Moves Clause,Gravity Sleep Clause,Endless Battle Clause,!Open Team Sheets,!Timer Starting,!Timer Grace,!Timer Add Per Turn,!Timer Max Per Turn,!Timer Max First Turn,!Picked Team Size
/tour new gen9championsvgc2026regmb, elimination
/tour rules Evasion Moves Clause,Gravity Sleep Clause,Endless Battle Clause,!Open Team Sheets,!Timer Starting,!Timer Grace,!Timer Add Per Turn,!Timer Max Per Turn,!Timer Max First Turn,!Picked Team Size
/tour name [Champions] Doubles OU
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Thanks! You're missing the item clause removal though, could you add it?
 
I will probably start playing when the ladder is added to ps

I'm curious about mega-gengar, if shadow tag is too strong or if the presence of kingambit, gholdengo etc. easy to fit on teams will be enough of a check
 
Hey everyone! With Reg M-C soon on the horizon we're going to give this format a bit more of a formal start. To start off, we've assembled a council for the tier, consisting of:
Akaru Kokuyo
Ann
eragon
LogIce
Nails
Xrn
zoe

All of the above are accomplished players and have expressed interest in developing the tier, so it will be exciting to see where Champs DOU goes from here!

:sv/Basculegion:
Of the Pokemon currently available in champions, the council felt that Basculegion was far and away the most obviously broken pokemon, being already one of the best mons in VGC Regulation M-B and Last Respects being much stronger in a 6v6 context. As such, the council opted to vote on Basculegion in the tier:
akaruanneragonlogicenailsxrnzoe
Basculegionban-banbanbanbanban

Having recieved 6/7 Votes, Basculegion is now quickbanned from Champs DOU.

Basculegion was the only Pokemon on the slate, as we feel that everything else at least deserves playing time. However, there are a few other Pokemon that we discussed that we felt could potentially be problematic:

Somewhat informal watchlist:
:Annihilape: Very strong Pokemon that has potential to be uncompetitive with Rage Fist and Beat Up from an ally, but does lose Tera compared to SV (where it is banned), and Rage Fist resets after switchout (which it didn't previously). These are pretty major nerfs considering the way it was played in SV, but Annihilape is still worth keeping an eye on.

:Gengar-Mega:
Another very strong mega banned in some previous tiers. Shadow Tag is very powerful in 6v6 but much of the top pokemon in the game (like Incineroar, Garchomp, Kingambit) can be pretty annoying for Mega Gengar. Definitely a Pokemon that could be broken down the line, but we'll have to see how the format develops.

:Floette-Mega:
Another Mega that has potential to be a bit overbearing. Mega Floette is a fairly fast Pokemon that hits extremely hard, and it's also possible its setup sets could be a fair amount stronger in 6v6. Again, we'll just have to see how the format develops.

:Charizard-Mega-Y:
One of the top megas in VGC, but likely to be a fair bit worse off here thanks to factors like Stealth Rock and the inability to run double Mega and choose your mega on team preview. Nevertheless, Charizard is easily one of the strongest pokemon in the game currently and definitely something worth eyeing as time goes on.

On Item Clause
Whether or not to include Item Clause will be one of the biggest questions for this format going forward, and the council is still discussing the topic. On the one hand, Item Clause is automatic in Pokemon Champions and Champions OU is following it, and we'd like to generally remain in line with how OU is handling things. However, on the other hand, the lack of Item Clause is historically one of the main differences between DOU and VGC, and since 6v6 is not possible in game, we're already playing a format that is not cart-accurate. For now, we will continue to not have item clause, but this is certainly up for debate and any feedback is welcome.

Current (updated) challenge code (we also forgot ohko moves clause before oops):
Code: 
/challenge gen9championsvgc2026regmb@@@-Basculegion,Evasion Moves Clause,OHKO Clause,Gravity Sleep Clause,Endless Battle Clause,!Open Team Sheets,!Timer Starting,!Timer Grace,!Timer Add Per Turn,!Timer Max Per Turn,!Timer Max First Turn,!Item Clause,!Picked Team Size,!Min Team Size
 
Mushfiq said:
How is Smogon banning from Champions? I see it still be used
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This format is Champions DOU and is technically not an official format according to The Pokemon Company International. Smogon is not official according to them either and we have our own formats (such as 6v6 doubles, which is where this format differs from traditional VGC); our bans from our formats in no way influence the official formats (especially since VGC formats never ban things mid-format).
 
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