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Tournament Hackmons Premier League III - Semifinals
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Tiebreakers round:
:Garganacl:Salty Stoners (2) vs (1) MaHōYo Mewtwo:Mew:
SV BH: vnmmv vs Codename C.A.T
USUM BH: Ivar57 vs cityscapes
ND BH: damflame 3 vs carbene
Have fun!
:Garganacl:Salty Stoners (2) vs (1) MaHōYo Mewtwo:Mew:
SV BH: vnmmv vs Codename C.A.T
USUM BH: Ivar57 vs cityscapes
ND BH: damflame 3 vs carbene
Have fun!
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5-3 last week
This series is awkward to predict since I knew the least about these tiers, but here are my takes anyway. Also, good work Mewtwos for a very strong draft tbh, this tiebreak lineup is with Akira/cscl in the back
:Garganacl:Salty Stoners (1) [1.37] vs [1.63] (2) MaHōYo Mewtwo:Mew:
55-60% chance that Mewtwos take this
SV BH: vnmmv (43) vs (57) Codename C.A.T
I took a more thorough look at both players for tiebreak – looking at scouts, vnmmv is more versatile in terms of archetype, while CAT doesn't stray far from stereotypical pdon meta balance or, at most, dual breaker bulky offense type stuff. However, CAT's building intricacies are oriented towards making offense difficult to commit to for opponents. From someone who hasn't bothered with pdon meta it seems similar to Camove in that the most consistent way to win is by soft-matchup fishing with your defensive core (preparing for as much of the offensive metagame as possible while accepting you'll lose to some portion of realistic breakers) and progress-makers with tools that accomplish something meaningful against basically everything (Knock Off, near-unblockable Mortal Spin, burn spreading etc.), and CAT does a pretty good job at cteaming the most common breakers while running generally proactive mons. To vnmmv's credit they've played and built pretty well this season but I think CAT has the upper hand in an admittedly close matchup.
USUM BH: Ivar57 (32) vs (68) cityscapes
Surprising choice from Mewtwos given Stoners' best ORAS PH option is probably throwing Damflame there, but that meta is volatile so I guess this is ok too. This meta just does not favor Ivar's safe, slower playing tendencies well at all. Tail Glow is free for some reason and the Mewtwos/Gengar demand either reactivity (inherently passive decisions, like switching to your one check) or a more amorphous response mechanism where every mon can live a hit and do something back, which I'm unsure Ivar can fully execute when building.
There's obviously also the experience gap aspect:
On the other hand, Ivar is very capable when games devolve into grinding balance wars so I don't think this is a risk-free win or anything. Solidly in city's favor, but not unwinnable by Ivar imo
ND BH: damflame 3 (62) vs (38) carbene
This meta is weird – the best defensive cores in this meta are clear-cut, but are still vulnerable to a ton of bullshit (another meta where Tail Glow is broken but legal) so with reasonably good piloting and sentient building from both sides I cannot bold one side too strongly. However, damflame has the clear experience gap and is noticeably better at long games than carbene, whose mistakes so far are mostly from playing too risky in the context of their in-game position. At the same time, offense is actually really strong and the threat of a well-built offense will force damflame to adjust their building in some form. Therefore, damflame is favored but not overly so and will have to explore in the builder like carbene.
This series is awkward to predict since I knew the least about these tiers, but here are my takes anyway. Also, good work Mewtwos for a very strong draft tbh, this tiebreak lineup is with Akira/cscl in the back
:Garganacl:Salty Stoners (1) [1.37] vs [1.63] (2) MaHōYo Mewtwo:Mew:
55-60% chance that Mewtwos take this
SV BH: vnmmv (43) vs (57) Codename C.A.T
I took a more thorough look at both players for tiebreak – looking at scouts, vnmmv is more versatile in terms of archetype, while CAT doesn't stray far from stereotypical pdon meta balance or, at most, dual breaker bulky offense type stuff. However, CAT's building intricacies are oriented towards making offense difficult to commit to for opponents. From someone who hasn't bothered with pdon meta it seems similar to Camove in that the most consistent way to win is by soft-matchup fishing with your defensive core (preparing for as much of the offensive metagame as possible while accepting you'll lose to some portion of realistic breakers) and progress-makers with tools that accomplish something meaningful against basically everything (Knock Off, near-unblockable Mortal Spin, burn spreading etc.), and CAT does a pretty good job at cteaming the most common breakers while running generally proactive mons. To vnmmv's credit they've played and built pretty well this season but I think CAT has the upper hand in an admittedly close matchup.
USUM BH: Ivar57 (32) vs (68) cityscapes
Surprising choice from Mewtwos given Stoners' best ORAS PH option is probably throwing Damflame there, but that meta is volatile so I guess this is ok too. This meta just does not favor Ivar's safe, slower playing tendencies well at all. Tail Glow is free for some reason and the Mewtwos/Gengar demand either reactivity (inherently passive decisions, like switching to your one check) or a more amorphous response mechanism where every mon can live a hit and do something back, which I'm unsure Ivar can fully execute when building.
There's obviously also the experience gap aspect:
On the other hand, Ivar is very capable when games devolve into grinding balance wars so I don't think this is a risk-free win or anything. Solidly in city's favor, but not unwinnable by Ivar imo
ND BH: damflame 3 (62) vs (38) carbene
This meta is weird – the best defensive cores in this meta are clear-cut, but are still vulnerable to a ton of bullshit (another meta where Tail Glow is broken but legal) so with reasonably good piloting and sentient building from both sides I cannot bold one side too strongly. However, damflame has the clear experience gap and is noticeably better at long games than carbene, whose mistakes so far are mostly from playing too risky in the context of their in-game position. At the same time, offense is actually really strong and the threat of a well-built offense will force damflame to adjust their building in some form. Therefore, damflame is favored but not overly so and will have to explore in the builder like carbene.
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:Garganacl: Salty Stoners (0) vs (0) MaHōYo Mewtwo :Mew:
SV BH: vnmmv vs Codename C.A.T
USUM BH: Ivar57 vs cityscapes
ND BH: damflame 3 vs carbene
i dont know my bh
SV BH: vnmmv vs Codename C.A.T
USUM BH: Ivar57 vs cityscapes
ND BH: damflame 3 vs carbene
i dont know my bh
:Garganacl:Salty Stoners (2) vs (1) MaHōYo Mewtwo:Mew:
SV BH: vnmmv vs Codename C.A.T
vnmmv builds cool teams and damflame + ivar support so bolding him
USUM BH: Ivar57 vs cityscapes
as the city slayer, ivar has an undefeated record in this mu which will hopefully continue
ND BH: damflame 3 vs carbene
mewtwos are gonna build some heinous offense together and thrash dam
SV BH: vnmmv vs Codename C.A.T
vnmmv builds cool teams and damflame + ivar support so bolding him
USUM BH: Ivar57 vs cityscapes
as the city slayer, ivar has an undefeated record in this mu which will hopefully continue
ND BH: damflame 3 vs carbene
mewtwos are gonna build some heinous offense together and thrash dam
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