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Really late omcl teamdump because tkhanh yelled at me.

:Staraptor::Ting-Lu::Sinistcha::Iron Hands::Kingambit::Regidrago: Gambit two ways
Surprise trade your pieces with final gambit and then win from the back with Supreme Overlord Kingambit. You lose to any fairy type with recovery but good thing the best fairy type is Porygon2. If you railroad and autopilot by clicking Final Gambit every turn you will lose 90% of the time; it plays best if you play it as you would a fairly fat team and just click Final Gambit against threatening pieces with your least valuable ones.

:Ninetales-Alola::Kyurem::Weezing-Galar::Incineroar::Landorus::Ogerpon-Wellspring: Scarf Kyurem + Neutralizing Gas (scrapped)
Was gonna bring this vs zee week 1 but I chickened out and fished. Mostly use this for room tours now but being able to turn off abilities to guarantee snow goes up and outspeed stuff like Lando-I and Tornadus before they can click tailwind to get an easy double kill early. It's a fairly standard snow team otherwise. 4th move Helping Hand on Kyurem so Weezing isn't uber passive otherwise, and let's be honest you don't need Dragon STAB on it.

:Espathra::Espeon::Amoonguss::Incineroar::Milotic::Ampharos: Dishonesty Ostrich + Ampharos + Spore (scrapped)
Was gonna use this vs crow crumbs if they wanted to best of three but they couldn't. Anyways, Espeon is mostly because it had a speed stat, also 'beats' Ting-Lu + Glimmora a little more compared to Gholdengo which thuds into it most of the time. Aside from that, pretty usual dishonesty you'd expect from an Espathra Baton Pass team.

:Scream Tail::Dragonite::Ursaluna-Bloodmoon::Sylveon::Chien-Pao::Incineroar: Pixilate + Mono Boomburst Scream Tail
Combination of multiple ideas that have worked okay somehow seamlessly melded into one team. I wanted to build with Howl Scream Tail + Scale Shot Dragonite because that combo seemed really fun combined with Scream Tail's fast encore and ability to hit screens with Psychic Fangs. At a different time, I was experimenting with Boomburst Sylveon in ways that aren't Noivern (don't run this I beg) or rebuilding the crack Frixel likes to spam, specifically I was looking at pocket boomburst Rillaboom. Both of them were good in some aspects and bad in others but putting the two together to create this unholy lead duo of Tailwind + Scale Shot Dnite and mono attacking Boomburst on Scream Tail, both lacking Protect. It works, I think I only won that because of not 252 spe Exca but I really liked the end result regardless.

:Qwilfish-Hisui::Ting-Lu::Latias::Clefable::Gholdengo::Goodra-Hisui: Hisuian Qwilfish and Hisuian Goodra in 2025
Thought process vs chromate was to stall since usually their teams are pretty weak to stall and I couldn't think of anything better. Originally an OMPL build I semi hastily brought it together since OMPL 13's theme ended up being critspam being viable, so instead of using Archaludon I used Shell Armor Hisuian Goodra as a side grade. In hindsight, the former sample is always going to be the best iteration even with the guaranteed crit techs. Lessons learned I guess.

:Ampharos::Tornadus::Landorus::Porygon2::Sinistcha::Volcanion: Forever Heavy (used by someone else)
Same exact public team as seen in this RMT thread and works just as well, except I put goggles on Volcanion I wasn't sure about leftovers. It didn't much of make a difference, might put boots on Volcanion?

:Roaring Moon::Ogerpon-Hearthflame::Lilligant-Hisui::Walking Wake::Torkoal::Diancie: Today on Top Gear (used by someone else)
I was told LogIce had a lot of sinistcha usage so I wanted to build a sun since nobody did this like ever???? I'm pretty sure Sunny Day Roaring Moon was a Frixel tech and the Diancie with the EVs I stole from the NatDex Doubles analysis outspeeds Chien-Pao and Lando-I in the right conditions (Tailwind + Chlorophyll). I really like how it turned out, if you are too passive against this you will take a crit boosted Eruption from tera fire Walking Wake in sun (not fun). Originally had night slash on Roaring Moon but knock off utility is worth it more than the guaranteed crits.

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Moral of the story: Turns out Incineroar and Intimidate are still pretty good.
 
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Got a quick question:
If I have stonjourner with the ability power spot, its partner gets a 1.3x power boost.
But since the ability is shared, does the partner's copy of power spot then apply to stonjourner?

If this question has already been answered in the thread I'll delete this.

Cause in theory for example, guts applies to both mons if one has it - which is the same as if you had two mons with guts in a non OM double battle. - so if you had two stonjourners in a non-OM, their abilities would apply to each other, which would suggest that in this OM, you only need one stonjourner to have powerspot give a boost to both mons...

I haven't tested this, thats why I'm asking this...
 
FirstShowDownNoob said:
Got a quick question:
If I have stonjourner with the ability power spot, its partner gets a 1.3x power boost.
But since the ability is shared, does the partner's copy of power spot then apply to stonjourner?

If this question has already been answered in the thread I'll delete this.

Cause in theory for example, guts applies to both mons if one has it - which is the same as if you had two mons with guts in a non OM double battle. - so if you had two stonjourners in a non-OM, their abilities would apply to each other, which would suggest that in this OM, you only need one stonjourner to have powerspot give a boost to both mons...

I haven't tested this, thats why I'm asking this...
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If NGas is up, Mon A has an ability shield, Mon B doesn’t:
1. Does Mon A still have Mon B’s ability
2. Does Mon B still have Mon A’s ability
 
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We turn to the attention of one of the more interesting moves that people have been talking about this OMPL: Focus Energy.

Allegedly, instead of playing the game you just click Focus Energy and now you have guaranteed Firepower not blocked by Haze or Intimidate which is pretty good! Of the pokemon with crit deterrence, only one is viable and its Goodra-Hisui and thats still pretty fringe and competes with archaludon, and thats still owned by the best focus energy giver in the game, Ogerpon-Hearthflame.



Lets talk about something else...
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I believe half of the problem is that teams have gotten slower and more passive as a result, and this ompl we've kind of see the opposite with more consistent aggro structures and less fishing overall (but still some fishing cus we can't help it its pic). Hell even this OMPL I think we (the commanders) brought a genie all 7 games and gotten an impressive winrate. Lati@s and ting lu usage rates are on a downturn and franky I don't blame it. Not to discredit Focus Energy, critspam teams are easy money.

That being said, I want to hear people's thoughts on the metagame on where it stands currently along with other stuff from their OMP/FL adventures. Share heat techs, ideas, or whatever else you think is cool!


E: I'll start
:sv/tornadus: :sv/landorus:
Tornadus @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Bleakwind Storm
- Tailwind
- Icy Wind / Nasty Plot
- Taunt

Landorus @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sandsear Storm
- Sludge Bomb
- Gravity
- Protect

Accuracy boost to Sandsear/Bleakwind Storm as well as being able to just straight up kill Levitate mons without needing mold breaker, in one move slot? Sounds too good to be true but Gravity does all of that! You can even tech focus blast to do like 40% to Ting-Lu, too. Pretty impressive and scary to face.
 
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As an undefeated ompl PIC main, my opinion is obviously incredibly important and we should all be listening to it.

I don't think focus energy is really very problematic. It requires you to be using high crit moves, on a pokemon that's strong unboosted, and you still have to set up to get there. You could maybe make an argument about hearthpon being a problem but I think hearthpon is cracked regardless of if it's focus (Focus might not help, admittedly, but it's not like all hearthpons run focus energy even).

Meta does feel a little fishy rn but there's plenty of room to outplay in game most of the time. There's no one dominant structure that supresses everything else, and in fact there's an extremely large variety of playstyles that get used and see success, which is nice. If I was pointing out one problem other than hearthpon, though, it would be sleep. I think it has historically been slept on (pun intended) but it's kind of nuts when you put it on the right team, especially when the right team includes mold breaker; there's counterplay but aside from ghold most of the counterplay sucks.

You could say something about psysurge or sun or genies but I think they're all on the right side of fine as things stand.
 
Post-OMPL Thoughts and Teamdump

Pretty happy overall with my 4-2 OMPL, and that I was able to support bigfoot to a win as well over tkhanh. Gonna start by saying I think nothing is bannable right now. However, I do agree a bit with QT that sleep has opportunities to be pretty broken in this tier, and would support a singles sleep clause addition to PiC.

Focus energy is balanced. Having counterplay available to stuff like ampharos, as well as screens setup in general is very crucial to the tier not being overrun with bulky setup teams, or saving every team from running haze.

I kinda disagree with HiZo a bit on the state of the current meta as far as bulkier stuff goes. I think Ting-Lu is still S tier, and while offense is on a bit of an upswing, most matchups with ting dogi ghold are very playable. I tinkered with some more offensive ting lu cores this tour, as well as stuff like grassy seed body press lu modeled off DOU and both tested fairly well.

To highlight some of my cooler/more original teams this tour:

Okidogi + Ting Lu Balance::ting-lu: :ogerpon-hearthflame: :okidogi: :Gholdengo: :latias: :incineroar:

Classic Amphy Screens: :ampharos: :porygon2: :landorus: :volcanion: :latias: :grimmsnarl:

Grassy Seed Lu + Hoopa: :rillaboom: :hoopa-unbound: :ting-lu: :diancie: :tornadus: :okidogi:

Minds Eye Bronzong::Bronzong: :Ursaluna-Bloodmoon: :incineroar: :ogerpon-wellspring: :sneasler: :ampharos: (probably my favorite team I built all tour)

Orthworm Sun: :Tornadus: :landorus: :gouging fire: :brute bonnet: :incineroar: :orthworm:

Not really gonna yap about the teams, but I really enjoyed building this tour and looking forward to playing more PiC!

Shoutout crow crumbs as always for being my prep partner, and TTTech & zastra for drafting me, as well as Chromate for helping me out in semis, ur all derbeste
 
(Somehow, I've never posted in this thread..???)

I don't believe Focus Energy is the problem, if one even exists. It's only really super strong on Hearthflame and to get the most out of the Focus set, you need to lose Mold Breaker by using Tera to massively boost its output. On other things such as Kyurem, it requires a number of clicks and careful positioning to get the most out of it, and I don't see that as an issue, comparable to other types of setup.

Hearthflame itself is very strong, but mostly because its kit with Mold Breaker pushes a lot of defensive ability mons out of the meta, which often serve as a backbone to the sort of stall / fat setup teams we've seen in the past. I don't really see this as an issue either though, there's options to run things like ability shields at not much cost to the user, pretty much all the Steels and Levitators could do this. Latios, for example, often just runs Soul Dew.

If people wanted to see a Hearthflame suspect, I wouldn't mind it, but I would vote DNB as it is right now. I think there's sufficient room for new comps to pop up, we were pretty much coming up with a new spin on a common core every week, people are just gonna have to figure out how to respond to it.

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:alcremie: :tornadus: :landorus: :kyurem: :regidrago: :tinkaton:
https://pokepast.es/fcf78e6f320852ed
:alcremie: :tornadus: :landorus: :ursaluna-bloodmoon: :sinistcha: :tinkaton:
https://pokepast.es/c795e330723aaa68
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9partnersincrime-2562108600-hwjpvy8gybl1qlqtwu1h22lc170n3ntpw

These were the start of my obsession with Mold Breaker + Genies, though later I realized Hearthflame was Just Better than Tink, though Tink still has a place. After a game vs Chromate where I loaded mono-lose-to-genies: the comp, I decided to load it in the next round, where they 6-0ed off lead. Genies being good is certainly not a new discovery by me, they've historically been very good in this tier but I was down on them for a while/uncomfortable piloting the comps that used them, and into the popular stall comps which feature Ting-Lu.

I stared at the builder for a while, as one does, looking for something broken to load vs Frixel, since I wanted to actually try vs him and maybe win the tour. I made the Tink teams with Alcremie for prankster Decorate nonsense/anti-disruption, though it could easily be Sweet Veil vs sleep as well.

I was testing with HiZo the day or night before, knowing that Frixel is a fellow heavy user of Hizo teams. I thought using Focus to crit through the defensive setup spam made sense, with strong spread moves. Hizo liked it and wanted to put a spin on my version, and made the Blursa version. I liked it, but I still preferred my own. Unfortunately, due to a misclick or PS mishap, I ended up loading the Blursa version and kinda just lost to a bleakwind miss among other misplays. I swore I'd never play PIC again after this set, but...


After Occasional, it was time for OMPL, and as usual Hizo and I collabed on all of the teams Chris32156 loaded. We didn't always see eye to eye on the vision, which is fine and normal, often it leads to a better team. However, I wanted to post the versions that we didn't load, which are a few. Also, I built a couple things that didn't make the cut.

Random, Unused Build:
:ursaluna: :bronzong: :dragonite: :volcanion: :roaring-moon: :enamorus-therian:
https://pokepast.es/0202a4d4f945aa1a
Don't use this. It's not good. I was looking for ideas in the builder, saw Contrary, forgot contrary was banned and then retrofit it with a enam-t. I wanted to stuff like Headlong bear, Overheat Volc, etc. but it still functioned ok without it. A bit sylveon weak without tera, too many dragons, etc.

Chris vs Yuki #1 (Week 4)
:ogerpon-hearthflame: :tornadus: :landorus: :porygon2: :raging-bolt: :orthworm:
https://pokepast.es/ec258b2f7f8f54f5
This game got deadgamed. Still, I felt like Prankster Shed Tail for Bolt, Download passing to genies/bolt+semiroom mode was super strong, it tested well and I'm confident it would have won. Would love to know what they were planning to load, though! There's also a Primarina/bronzong version. I didn't care for that one, but I almost put a CM Prim on the first version.

Chris vs Yuki: #2 (Semifinals)
:kingambit: :ogerpon-hearthflame: :primarina: :porygon2: :ursaluna-bloodmoon: :araquanid:
https://pokepast.es/eb88acecd115f37f
Upon reinspection of Yuki's scout in semis, I felt like Kingambit would have been a good pick. I wanted to try to punish the Psyspam usage with wg/gambit, and I wanted to run webs so I combined the ideas and landed on this. I played one test game and got farmed by something, so I just ditched it, but if it's played by a person that's better than me it could have been funny.

Chris vs Yuki: #3
:glimmora: :kingambit: :spectrier: :tornadus: :landorus: :ogerpon-hearthflame:
https://pokepast.es/7e8d398aa1e2a406
:glimmora: :kingambit: :spectrier: :tornadus: :landorus: :incineroar:
https://pokepast.es/25139c5705c59f6a

After I ditched the previous idea, I thought Glimm + Dark Types actually looked super good, so I took a favorite DOU core of Gambit/Glim/Spect and slapped Genies+Hearthflame like we'd been doing all tour. Gambit was supposed to deter Incin/Lando-T, mostly Incin, despite the lack of usage in the scout, to free up lines for Spectrier. Spectrier was Hex to go with Glim, inspired by qrChar builds. Sub for vs sleep, Fairy Tera Blast to try to help with the Ting-Lu mu. I'd definitely recommend making the first version that Spect set as well.

The next day, I realized Snarl/Taunt Incin was also pretty alright into the scout. I got rid of the Hearthflame since Fire->Fire role swap (defensively), didn't feel like Mold Breaker was too necessary, and this is what I wanted us to load in Semis. We didn't load either version for reasons out of my control, but it was a deadgame again and it didn't matter + Yuki didn't even end up playing. I still stand by the Incin version, and I encourage anyone to try it. I had a lot of fun piloting it.

Enjoy the teams, I'm pretty much always down to just play or talk about this tier if you see me on PS, or ideally shoot me a DM on Discord. Hope everyone had a good time in OMPL, looking forward to CL/the next Occasional.

Shoutouts to HiZo , Chris32156 , gephicka and Chromate for making PIC one of the best parts of this PL for me.
 
OMPL dump woooo

Teams:
w1: :ninetales-alola::kyurem::ogerpon-hearthflame::iron hands::landorus::tornadus:
w2: :tyranitar::excadrill::ogerpon-wellspring::zapdos-galar::gouging fire::latios: (If you run this please replace low kick on ttar with rocks)
w3: :iron crown::indeedee-f::ogerpon-hearthflame::okidogi::ursaluna-bloodmoon::roaring moon:
w4: (I stole dfm's weezing sample)
w5: :chien-pao::glimmora::ogerpon-hearthflame::iron hands::gholdengo::roaring moon:
w6: ::iron crown::indeedee-f::volcanion::regidrago::landorus-therian::tornadus:

OMCL Bonuses:
Diancie Priospam: :chien-pao::dragonite::ogerpon-hearthflame::diancie::ursaluna::sinistcha:
Frosmoth Snow: :ninetales-alola::frosmoth::heatran::iron hands::ursaluna-bloodmoon::sinistcha:

Had a decent run this time around, not quite as happy with my play this year since I got some good hax in 2 games and my losses were not the best, but much happier with my builds here than omcl. Not gonna yap abt the teams individually but I really enjoyed experimenting with psyspam and roaring moon, moon in particular feels pretty nice in a meta with so much ogerpon and I like having a tailwind setter that beats ghold. Also shared the two OMCL builds that I liked here, diancie sinistcha providing a bulkier backbone and stronger TR mode for priospam was nice, and I thought frosmoth was still pretty neat even though it's a bit of a fishy mon. If anyone has any questions abt the teams tho feel free to ask!

On Focus Energy:
I don't think that Focus Energy is banworthy as a move, I think it's a strong option on hearthflame, but I'm not really impressed with it in any other capacity. Having to run scope lens feels kinda bad, especially if it's on a mon that doesn't run focus energy innately, since they're reliant on specific board states to get any value. I mostly agree with Smudge's take here, I can see the case for wanting action on hearthflame, but I personally don't find it banworthy. I do understand that defensive counterplay can feel limiting since most teams tend to opt for ability-based or stat-based defensive options, but I also think that Ability Shield is a decent option for teams that are that reliant on abilities for defensive counterplay. For hearthflame itself, it's an incredibly strong attacker for sure, but I think there's enough answers in the meta, stuff like rain, raging bolt, glimmora, volcanion, etc., attackers that can tank a hit or two if needed and threaten hearthflame with big damage. The popularity of mono cudgel sets also makes it a bit more linear of a mon which can be nice for defensive counterplay.

s/o to HiZo as always for tests throughout the tour, and s/o to LogIce, yuki, tkhanh, SeaLife, and DeepFriedMagikarp for helping me out with occasional tests/feedback as well!
 
best pic record couldn't have done it without Smudge and damflame 3 for the assists and Chris32156 and gephicka for piloting. As well as the 10 bajillion users I spammed for tests.

"Gusto" is a common theme for this OMPL dump. As in playing proactive since that was Chris's playing style.

:Tornadus::Landorus::Clefable::Chien-Pao::Volcanion::Iron Hands: Generic is good (my version)
SeaLife is a known cheeser and Magnetic Flux spammer so I built something really generic that also has various options against cheese, especially levitate ampharos (hence grav lando). We loaded into cheese, case closed.

:Ninetales-Alola::Kyurem::Okidogi::Ogerpon-Hearthflame::Roaring Moon::Gholdengo: Please let me stay on the field and click the broken crit moves, thank you.
Frixel I assumed was gonna load either hyper offense screens or fat, like in finals. I decided to go with critspam snow because it just seemed right, somehow. I am still uncertain about Focus Energy's place in the tier but this is a good show on how potent it is.

:Landorus::Pelipper::Chimecho::Basculegion-F::Archaludon::Ampharos: A nuclear burrito, that explodes when you press it.
Chris wasn't too sure about this team at first til I showed them the ropes. Ampharos on rain makes sense like. You have ur muddy water swift swimmers, you have Archaludon who wouldn't mind magnetic flux and even gives ampharos the stab broken move so I wanted a team with multiple modes of play depending on what the hell happens. Chimecho worst mon on team but it gives the right moves and ability to pull off a victory against chromate.

W4 yuki scares me and I couldn't really, come up with anything, smudge however provided (or wouldve provided, i dont remember I'm a neurotic mess in prep).

:Tornadus::Gouging Fire::Ursaluna::Dragonite::Ogerpon-Hearthflame::Bronzong: Zee sun, part 1
I was really fascinated trying to recreate that zee sun team, and was trying multiple ways to replicate how it felt in playing since it seemed good into tkhanh. However with Chi-Yu being banned it proved to be a pain. I built this at 3am right before the game hoping that sun boosted attacks were able to power through any setup bullshit that comes my way. Rolled a good matchup and clinched it. For some reason I also built a level 1 carbink team this week I was unironically considering.

:Tornadus::Gouging Fire::Chien-Pao::Rillaboom::Brute Bonnet::Heatran: Zee sun, part 2
Once again a semi last minute call. Was either this or a frosmoth snow. For some reason I had a strange feeling Ninjasnapple was going to bring Hogerpon (this guy rules) and/or Psyspam (Our scout was kinda weak to it on paper) so I took another stab focusing on Zee sun with Brute Bonnet in the spotlight. Prank Spore with Rilla for psysurge and Ashield Heatran was able to help shut down Ninjasnapple's team fairly well despite some poor bleakwind misses.

:Sableye::Comfey::Iron Hands::Ogerpon-Hearthflame::Enamorus-Therian::Moltres-Galar: Axel F - Crazy Frog
Once again while I was frantically looking through prep I kinda noticed that LogIce/Bigfoot tend to use a lot of dark types, so I built this to hopefully take advantage of that weakness. Since we were gauranteed in Gephicka wanted to use belly drum hands so I changed the team accordingly, especially to outspeed Incineroar. Sane people use clear amulet + swords dance.

:Toxapex::Spectrier::Tornadus::Landorus::Incineroar::Chien-Pao: Toxapex is a hyper offense stallbreaker, or something
Yuki scares me, I was thinking about Drifblim because I thought it had interesting properties but smudge wasn't too keen on the idea ^^'
Smudge focused on bringing Kingambit but I got caught in an artists block and, in hindsight, should've let smudge behind the wheel. Regardless, Merciless Toxapex is here mostly as a way to brute force potentially bulkier teamstyles/troll fullroom and absorb Tspikes since I knew yuki had a thing for debris and we spammed like physical attackers through the last half of OMPL. Got caught in a bad matchup and yeah the team stunk. Ah well, not every team is a winner.
 
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Got knocked out early in occasional but heres a collection of teams ive made recently
They are of varying degrees of success and testing and polish, but all are reasonably sound and the concepts are there
(click the mons for the teamlinks)

:ting-lu: :gyarados: :weezing-galar: :enamorus: :ogerpon-hearthflame: :gholdengo:
:heatran: :weezing-galar: :ogerpon-wellspring: :sinistcha: :latias: :ting-lu:

Weezing + (Tinglu) + supports is a very very effective core and Weezing in general gets better and more splashable the more i experiment with it
Incredibly underrated mon that shuts down all sorts of gimmicky stuff obviously, but also lowkey single-handedly destroys any kind of fat team.
Those fat teams have a very hard time handleing neutralizing gas + tspikes + poison gas spam which leads to a very easy and calm slow death

:bronzong: :ampharos: :ursaluna-bloodmoon: :torkoal: :hatterene: :indeedee-f:
:bronzong: :raging-bolt: :farigiraf: :torkoal: :diancie: :ogerpon-hearthflame:

First team is an incredibly super unpolished newer version of the second team, but tldr is torkoal bronzong ampharos seems like a valid tr core, back 3 mons idk maybe psy is not the solution but i do like hatterene for spore

:ninetales-alola: :iron bundle: :ampharos: :incineroar: :metagross: :tornadus:

A first attempt at ampharos snow, pretty obvious synergy but could be better. Got too greedy with some really funny Plus boosted NMI iron bundle calcs but it should probably just be booster energy lol (or life orb if youre even more real)

:excadrill: :tyranitar: :dragonite: :sinistcha: :landorus: :ogerpon-wellspring:
Maybe sinistcha slot is too passive on this one, farigiraf or something could be a cool alternative but i do like this new build of sand compared to the more classic amoonguss incineroar balance versions. Dragonite has really good offensive and defensive synergy with sand

:glimmora: :hoopa-unbound: :rillaboom: :tornadus: :ogerpon-hearthflame: :iron hands:
Little bit too many guys trying to setup on this team, but i think grassy seed hoopa (+glimmora + tailwind) has good potential
Dropping NP for psychic could be better, maybe add landorus for the sheer force boost and a genies offense angle, idk figuring out hoopa moveset is really hard, comes down to what other mons you have and trying to fill the gaps.
+2 52+ SpA Hoopa-Unbound Grass Knot (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu in Grassy Terrain: 504-594 (98 - 115.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
funny calcs tho and ting is never max-max

:archaludon: :pelipper: :sinistcha: :comfey: :grimmsnarl: :ogerpon-wellspring:

Its not perfect, but this was my attempt at making the most demonic raidboss Archaludon team i could think of. Maybe there is no perfect version out there, everything you try to account for you miss out on others (this version is weak to spore and dedicated critspam however if its just solo hearthflame is weak under rain)
Alternative to this grimmsnarl version would be one of the levitate psychics (uxie, mesprit, bronzong) w/ teched move light screen or stuff, theres some other support options out there ( like i considered a weezing version i might make in the future)
Sinistcha might be a little bit redundant with comfey and this much of a dedicated raidboss concept, better on more typical RainRoom variants prolly

In this journey attempting raidboss Archaludon, maybe other raidboss concepts are just better, like maybe the Hizo Moltres-Galar Comfey sampleteam
But its not all doom and gloom, this version is still plenty capable of cheesing through many many teams out there
 
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