Resource SV OU Speed Tiers

[raffe]

not sure if we do removals but heres a list of a lot of changes

based on usage stats if its below 0.10% last month in 1825+ according to munchstats
entei (328, 299) (.04%)
pinchurchin (66) (.05%)
alcremie (164) (.05%)
chansey (136) (.09%)
lilligant h (309, 339, 463, 508, 618, 678) (.05%)
ditto (118) (.08%) ditto speed tier doesnt matter cuz its based on ur speed aswell
pinchurchin (66) no reason to ever need the speed tier cuz its so slow

just one specific speed stat I think you should remove:
neutral alo (166) 121 min speed is only ever used
mamoswine no investment(196) mamo is never used, and when it is it always runs speed
ninetales a (317) the few atails all just run max speed
ninetales sun (236) no ninetales run no speed invest. they all run max
hydrapple with negative speed (83) never seen
slitherwing +2 (522) ive never seen a slither wing that got off two flame charges in ou before
ribombee +1 neutral (520) scarf bee runs timid just for the extra speed


additions:
latios neutral(319) often used with scarf sets to get the extra power
hatterene 52evs(107) most used hatt speed stat. for creeping garg and pex
ninetales positive(328) ninetales sun is very common and is on every sun team.
excadrill neutral (275, 550) adamant is way more used

new mons!
jolteon max speed (394)
pawmot max speed (339) some usage, and it was even brought in olt swiss

mistakes i noticed:
at 350, you list only one ogerpon form, but at 319 you put 2 different forms just curious about that.
at 518 you list venusaur with dnite and blaziken, but at 568 you list venusaur as being sun rock.

this is an amazing resource that i use a ton for building so would love to contribute

 

[raffe]

Hello!!
I'm proud to announce i'm the new manager of the SV Speed Tiers thread for the foreseeable future.

I'm very excited because I didn't think just putting some suggestions would have this happen LOL.
Over the past few days or so, I've spent a very long time combing through and making a list of over 100+ vr changes.

My Goal
My goal is to make the speed tiers much more simple to scroll through, and remove all the fat. Before it could be a little bit difficult to use because of the amount of everything that is in it. My goal is to make it as easy for use as possible for people like myself who use this resource a ton.

How I decided on what to keep/remove:
It was based on often one of two categories for removals.
Useless Speed Tiers: Here's some specific examples to help you understand what I meant as useless, :lilligant_hisui: had a lot of specific speed tiers that were extremely uncommon, especially considering the fact that this mon sees no usages in tour, and none on ladder either. :ninetales_alola: at 317 is another specific one that I removed. This speed tier is completely useless since A-Tales only sees usages with the max speed set so there's no point in keeping it.
Outdated/Worthless Mons: There were tons of mons that have legit no usage and so we might as well delete it. Here's some examples of them :entei: :pinchurchin: :ditto: (yes ditto was literally on it)

Speedcreep On Speed Tiers
There was a lot of changes that I made involving speed creep, the examples I remember being :zapdos: (301) :heatran: (200) :gliscor: (250) :scizor: (171). I am going to be leaving all of these off the speed tiers for the future. Currently there are two exceptions that I added though. :samurott_hisui: at 219 and :hatterene: at 107. The hrott speed tier is because this is the assault vest set that is one of the most common spreads and used on a majority of samurotts. Hatterene at 107 is used on every single Hatterene because being faster then garg is huge. The reason I'm not putting other speed creep mons on is because ANYTHING could be a speed creep tier technically. There would be like 20 mons at 200 so just for the simplicity, I am not adding any of them.

Changelog!
This is one thing I'm excited to announce is the changelog. There has never been a changelog on the speed tiers before because they are constantly being updated. How I'm going to be doing it is that the changelog will be broken up over certain timeframes, like the current one being scl/olt. It can be found under the tier 5 section of the speed tiers.

All Of My Updates!!
Here is the full list of changes as you can find under the tier 5 section. Its a total of 19 mons added, 68 removed, and 19 corrections

Mons Added
:Dragonite: 710, 647
:blaziken: 710, 647
:excadrill: 550
:jolteon: 394
:ninetales: 328
:Latias: 319
:cresselia: 295, 269
:samurott_hisui: 219
:moltres: 216
:pecharunt: 212
:glimmora: 208
:hoopa_unbound: 196, 176
:pelipper: 121
:hatterene: 107

Mons Removed
:barraskewda: 816, 408
:polteageist: 786, 716, 524
:Dragapult: 766
:lilligant_hisui: 678, 618, 508, 463, 339, 309
:thundurus_therian: 662, 602, 496, 451, 301
:moltres_galar: 612, 306
:quaquaval: 590
:overqwil: 590, 206
:basculegion: 560, 280
:great_tusk: 546, 409
:slither_wing: 522, 430, 391
:ribombee: 520, 347
:meowscarada: 517, 345
:greninja: 514, 343
:sandy_shocks: 496, 301
:rotom_wash: 447, 406
:ceruledge: 442, 403
:magnezone: 360, 328, 240, 219, 156
:iron_boulder: 347
:entei: 328, 299
:comfey: 328, 299, 236
:ninetales_alola: 317
:zapdos: 301
:iron_crown: 295
:gliscor: 250
:ninetales: 236
:heatran: 200
:mamoswine: 196
:scizor: 171
:alcremie: 164
:chansey: 136
:ditto: 118
:torkoal: 114
:slowbro: 96
:hydrapple: 83
:pincurchin: 66

Corrections Made!
:gholdengo: +1 listed as :choice_scarf:
:Kyurem: at 634 had Positive misspelled
:hawlucha: at 670 changed from positive to neutral
:walking_wake: at +1 now :booster_energy:
:venusaur: at 518 :heat_rock:
:samurott_hisui: +1 now :choice_scarf:
:hoopa_unbound: 426 and 388 now :choice_scarf:
:okidogi: +1 now marked :choice_scarf:
:excadrill: at 550 marked as :smooth_rock:
:iron_valiant: +1 marked as :choice_scarf:
:overqwil: +2 marked as :damp_rock:
:ogerpon: at 319 now listed as all variants
:dragonite: at +3 labeled as +4 properly
:blaziken: at +3 labeled as +4 properly
:slowking: and :slowking_galar: referred to as Slowking-*
:iron_jugulis: fixed spacing
:barraskewda: marked as :damp_rock:

big shoutout to KyleJD for trusting me to do this, and also shoutouts to mada and sequoia for managing the thread before me aswell.

also im sure theres so many changes that I missed out on, so feel free to put them in this thread! I'll be watching

 

[raffe]

Hey!

Went through and quickly updated this, by bolding the mons that are extremely important and should be kept in mind when building that you often see in games or have other importance's, like 525 :ogerpon: being an amazing revenge killer and also encore user.

Some other examples are like 199 Gambit, 370 ace, 317 Kyurem etcetc.