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Real talk: I can only imagine Roserade's gonna start free-fallin' from here on out (unless we discover some new roserade tech in the future)
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OU DPP OU Viability Ranking [updated May 2025]
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Real talk: I can only imagine Roserade's gonna start free-fallin' from here on out (unless we discover some new roserade tech in the future)
Ehhh, Trick Room is pretty bad. Mainly bc this is before P2 got an Eviolite buff, which did help turn P2 into a reliable wall that can check Dragon Dancers (Gyara & D-Nite). Download helps prevent P2 from being a passive wall with a nice SpA boost & a Modest nature.
The problem with TR is when people over commit to it. Its good if you approach it with the mindset that you dont always need to use it, depending on the matchup. If you lead Zong and go T1 TR -> T2 Explosion then its bad. If you keep Zong in the back for a late game sweep, its good.
Which is why I prefer Semi Trick Room imo (The TR Zong + Banded Tar). More flexible & better surprise.
I didn’t know Machamp can learn encore, cool
Shouldn't the VR be updated after 6+ months of sleep being banned or am I on the wrong page
give it time, people are still exploring the new meta
Fair enough
Yep, though if I were to rank the Fighters in DPP OU, it’ll be:
1.) Infernape (The og classic, has its flaws mainly 4mss, longevity, & its speed is 2 points off from 110. But is excellent when supporting offense & allowing wincons to sweep)
2.) Lucario (Recent SPL revealed more development for Luke, can see the CM set published on the Smog Dex)
3.) Breloom (The big 5 menace to an underrated mon, can easily screw you over if unprepared)
4.) Heracross (Banded Guts hits like a truck, SD sets are cool, & ScarfCross is a classic. Use lefties if using SD. RestCross is underrated)
5.) Hariyama (With Mag support, its can easily pound opposing teams with Bulk up. Basically Guts Machamp but much fatter)
6.) Gallade (Annoying lead, SD sets is nice bc Shadow Sneak hits common scarfers such as Rotom & Lati hard)
7.) Blaziken (Lead Ape, but more power)
just wanted to mention that i am always impressed or surprised with the power of luke at +2
its cool when a +1 cc ko's gyaras
CM Luke is making waves in DPP & its one of the best sets at tearing apart stall.
Though I recommend running Scarf Tar if you're running CM Luke imo, I get running Dark Pulse, but you either sacrifice Stab with Aura Sphere & risk Clefable annoying you or lose out on emergency priority against DD Tar, Agility Emp, & SD Luke.
Though I recommend running Scarf Tar if you're running CM Luke imo, I get running Dark Pulse, but you either sacrifice Stab with Aura Sphere & risk Clefable annoying you or lose out on emergency priority against DD Tar, Agility Emp, & SD Luke.