Haha thank you Don! I did show some calcs. It is interesting to use a Sitting Duck Lapras that fully recovers on each turn while not doing anything with maybe surf and toxic. Otherwise, it's a perfect set up poke, like for musharna and gorebyss( I prefer sub shell smash gorebyss, but didnt want to scare him that much). I really don't care if he "wins" the argument or doesn't like any of my suggestions, I'm just there to help :) People in the NU community know how respectable I am as an NU player, and I am 7-1 with my tea so far!! Lapras can stall Ludicolo was just too funny!