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>Shadow Ball Roserade

Roserade technically only needs 3 moves. Sludge bomb, Giga drain/leaf storm, Spikes/T-spikes. Shadow ball can be ran as a 4th. chande loses lol

DarkNostalgia

lmao im not even bothered

Creator of Chaos

lol :) Dont worry chandalure is still cool. Stick a scarf on it and go nuts

DarkNostalgia

the sole fact that you put life orb, 160 hp chandelure, and sr in is just roflmao.

DarkNostalgia

and scarf lure sucks

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