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Martin
Martin
lol
OLD GREGG (im back baby)
OLD GREGG (im back baby)
dude, i haven't been on smogon in two weeks and you still haven't put up the firebot playlist results. zZzzzZzzZzZzzz
Martin
Martin
I've been meaning to for 2 weeks and just haven't found enough time to do it in one go. I'll do it ASAP tho, don't worry.
OLD GREGG (im back baby)
OLD GREGG (im back baby)
no worries, just something to say. hows it going?
Martin
Martin
not much. getting hyped over SM leaks and going apeshit about how insanely good one of my favorite Pokémon is now, in case my avatar wasn't a dead giveaway.

Also Lazytown memes are objectively the best things ever.
Martin
Martin
Also there's my happiness at the success of the Tag thread but that's a whole different beast
OLD GREGG (im back baby)
OLD GREGG (im back baby)
Dodrio got good buffs too, its going to come up at least two tiers. Matine is UU easily. Drio going to be UU too.
Martin
Martin
>UU

Mantine is going straight to OU kappa. This thing is a special Skarm with more HP, and it tanks SO MUCH
Martin
Martin
Drio will prolly have Mega Gallade syndrome relative to Staraptor and Swellow too
OLD GREGG (im back baby)
OLD GREGG (im back baby)
Personally I think Dodrio will break the chains of ru mid-late 7th gen. Normal/fighting coverage with boosting and recovery...its def giong to rise, how far is yet to be seen. Mantine hits like a wet blanket... Its basically a Blissey without Natural cure but hazard removal. Im pretty sure non-stab stone miss annihilates it. Lets not even mention rotom-w.
Martin
Martin
dude do u realise how fucking good this thing's typing+ability is? Like, genuinely if Mantine had Roost in gen 6 it'd probably be in, like, the top 3 fat waters in the game, and there's just more incentive to use it in gen 7 given the presence of stuff like Drizzle Pelipper. Not to mention it counters non-HP Elec Keld, which is huge considering how much it has to give up to run HP Elec, as well as the only set I can imagine Ash Greninja using (it's forced into HP Ghost and loses ORAS tutors) while not only having extremely nice utility in Defog, but also a Scald immunity (even with the burn nerf this is big) and enormous special bulk. Srs, this calc says it all: 252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa-Unbound Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Mantine: 163-193 (43.5 - 51.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

**3HKO** on the move which almost singlehandedly broke OU without even having a type advantage. Obviously this isn't a Hoopa counter (Psyshock) but it really demonstrates how disgustingly fat this thing is.
OLD GREGG (im back baby)
OLD GREGG (im back baby)
didnt say it wouldnt be good, meant it would have SOLID competition in rotom-w and keldeo to name two
Martin
Martin
i don't rlly see how Keldeo is at all comparable. one's offensive and the other's defensive. Rotom-W's not a great comparison either 'cause one's a pivot and the other's a straight-up wall.
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