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not much. getting hyped over SM leaks and going apeshit about how insanely good one of my favorite Pokémon is now, in case my avatar wasn't a dead giveaway.
Also Lazytown memes are objectively the best things ever.
Personally I think Dodrio will break the chains of ru mid-late 7th gen. Normal/fighting coverage with boosting and recovery...its def giong to rise, how far is yet to be seen. Mantine hits like a wet blanket... Its basically a Blissey without Natural cure but hazard removal. Im pretty sure non-stab stone miss annihilates it. Lets not even mention rotom-w.
dude do u realise how fucking good this thing's typing+ability is? Like, genuinely if Mantine had Roost in gen 6 it'd probably be in, like, the top 3 fat waters in the game, and there's just more incentive to use it in gen 7 given the presence of stuff like Drizzle Pelipper. Not to mention it counters non-HP Elec Keld, which is huge considering how much it has to give up to run HP Elec, as well as the only set I can imagine Ash Greninja using (it's forced into HP Ghost and loses ORAS tutors) while not only having extremely nice utility in Defog, but also a Scald immunity (even with the burn nerf this is big) and enormous special bulk. Srs, this calc says it all: 252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa-Unbound Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Mantine: 163-193 (43.5 - 51.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
**3HKO** on the move which almost singlehandedly broke OU without even having a type advantage. Obviously this isn't a Hoopa counter (Psyshock) but it really demonstrates how disgustingly fat this thing is.
i don't rlly see how Keldeo is at all comparable. one's offensive and the other's defensive. Rotom-W's not a great comparison either 'cause one's a pivot and the other's a straight-up wall.