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delete cloyster, replace obstagoon for conk, add eq resist, electric resist and dracovish counter

Also u need rocks and defog.

yeah really this team is bad asf

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Well aside from what Fynx mentioned earlier, i personally think that the clef is a bit slow with only 172 (might be btr if minimum exceed 176 ~ 201), no recovery on clef makes the speed creep even worse, cb on dug is redundant since sash variant 2hko pex anyway+reversal lel (or tell me wut cb pex gonna do, ohko rotomH with stone edge?)

spdef > atk investment on grimm is prob btr for eating up one flash cannon to setup reflect, then setup light screen or vise versa... Oh and the liquidation on cloyster is nt a gud idea (cuz u know, spear+rock already hits everything and u shudnt shell smash if aegi is still alive on their field) so use smth other than that, such as ice shard/spikes.

Andrew, I will consider the liquadation-> Ice shard. Thanks.
But Can't I just change Clefable into a wish support set? Grimmsnarl needs to have 252 HP evs and 136 SpD EVS to even resist a Hydreigons Flash cannon

well yea u can make it to be wish support set by all means, and ur grimm role is to setup screens and 0 atk ev spirit break ohko hydrei anyway, why the atk ev?

wish support or LO set for clef? I'm making a new team with the core of cloyster, grimmsnarl and clefable with mah friend bobber

it really depends, i wanna know the full team first, or how u play the team, before i suggest anything

generally, lo clef is superior

if u wanna keep that lineup mons, i'd say sd toxtri for ferro/pex and rotomMow for grounds

In Gen 8, Toxtricity can't learn Swords Dance

and what rotom mow set?

sg* whoopsie
either nasty plot lefties / trick scarf rotomM is fine
srsly i nid to playtest bfore knowing which set is btr

thanks, how about the shift gear toxtricity?
I couldnt believe you actually had faith in sg toxtricity, Im kinda touched

u r kinda forced to run dat set if u wanna remain ur current team lel, but well
sg toxtri is somewhr in the forum so go search it urself, cuz i had no idea