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  1. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    This generation is always going to have a clear divide because of the massive skill ceiling. the top players who win a lot of games probably think its great since they can flex their skill and prowess. The rest of us struggle with the unpredictability. I don't think either camp should have more...
  2. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    I posted a team a few weeks back with sticky webs sun, i used timid life orb raging bolt, its pretty hectic on sun, wake is the goat spA pokemon on sun but bolt is also a strong contender if you dont mind having 2 special offense pokemon.
  3. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    Speaking of moltres ive been using it on sun with specs. its fairly easy to keep hazards off with eject hatterene. Moltres blows away anything not 4x resistant. less powerful than charizard but a lot sturdier, has uturn, and flame body is always useful in a pinch. Unfortunately on sun there is...
  4. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    Ogerpon can revenge keldeo. If cobalion has a boost or 2 then ogerpon cant do shit. Trading with ogerpon is a win in itself then getting some chip on the next thing with vacuum wave id call that a good trade. 252 Atk Wellspring Mask Ogerpon-Wellspring Ivy Cudgel vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Cobalion...
  5. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    the reason is because its fun. if you have a boosting move and priority its worth a look. Yeah ID is better but are you really going to compete with zamazenta in that role? There isnt one overwhelming special setup sweeper so theres room to move in, and cobalion has a fighting chance agaisnt...
  6. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    not to oversell a clearly niche pick but 108 isnt a rough speed tier, when you outspeed both iron treads and enamorus, and hit both for supereffective STAB. I think the metagame is stable enough that off meta picks can be capable/usable.
  7. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    How do we feel about special cobalion? obvious winning matchup agaisnt kingambit, samurott, weavile, non focus blast darkrai. has options for iron valiant or kyurem . Has trouble with birds and ghold. I see it being C tier in viability. definitely an underexplored pokemon :bw/Cobalion: @...
  8. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    mirror coat lends itself to high hp/ low def, thats why alomomola and wobufett work really well with it. tentacruel probably not an ideal candidate especially since it cant heal whereas alomomola has regen. Im really interested in a tspike/ liquid ooze set though
  9. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    *AHEM* 252 Atk Choice Band Sharpness Kleavor X-Scissor vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Ting-Lu: 498-588 (96.8 - 114.3%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
  10. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    this is the second time youve said my sets only work on low ladder but ive had wins in the 1700-1800 range with shitters like deo-d, night shade+ knock off isnt taunt fodder you still make progress. i havent seen that new kyurem set running around yet but ill keep an eye out for it
  11. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    tried it a few months ago, spdef tera ground. its not broken at all. its decent in certain matchups, you can pp stall certain pokemon, but its nowhere near as busted as tera poison cosmic power deo-d. that thing is awful for the opponent and a much better pressure staller. trouble is if youre...
  12. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    252+ Atk Choice Band Sharpness Kleavor X-Scissor vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Ting-Lu: 546-644 (106.2 - 125.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO Too lazy to make a big post atm but ive used bulky slither wing to great effect in OU. setup is hard to use i agree. I use wisp, morning sun, cc and uturn. Gives zamazenta...
  13. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    Im no pro player but i got to 1800s with it. i made a larger post explaining why its effective a couple pages back. A lot of sun pokemon are so strong this gen they dont need sun forever like chlorophyll pokemon do. Having it up for the proto boost 2-3 turns almost feels like offensive Z to...
  14. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    YOU'RE STUCK IN THE VORTEX BRO STUCK IN THE VORTEX
  15. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    Ive been using eject pack ninetails myself. Also has fast wisp. I know torkoal can set rocks but i think ninetails is less of a deadweight against many teams
  16. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    Apologies for the late reply. I'm not someone whos deeply effected by it on a personal level so i can look back there if you want some evidence but im not rushing off to do that myself. I just enjoy playing pokemon and this forum is a great place to discuss the game, dogpiling is just another...
  17. tommytt22

    Lmao the darkrai haters were out in force but we knew the truth :afrostar:

    Lmao the darkrai haters were out in force but we knew the truth :afrostar:
  18. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    Darkrai + sleep definitely made a real difference on the stall/fat matchup where theyre suddently taking spikes every turn. I felt it abused sleep in a different way to valiant or liligant but it was still pretty potent. Blows my mind on the decision to ban sleep though, breloom+amoongus been...
  19. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    Hate to be petty like this but i had an exchange with finch on the eve of dlc2 where darkrai was being discussed. My opinion was that itd be broken. his opinion was that itd be mid/ possibly fall to UU. we all have different opinions thats cool, and more importantly, neither of us had real...
  20. tommytt22

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Kyurem suspect now up]

    A commentary i want to make on Gen 9 OU, a tier i have a love/ hate relationship with, is that i do consider most playstyles viable if youre willing to get creative in the teambuilder. Thats something i really like about this format. And one of the cooler things I've found, is that while hazards...
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