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Dudes noting bax's journey from uu to ubers while forgetting the ice/dragon who set the precedent (in fact, that thing started rubl)

Probably because the only way it can make itself relevant is through shell smash, and it's too slow to abuse even that

But dude, cress doesn't learn toxic in gen 8... we already knew pre-gen 8 movesets were going to be lost. Try seeing if she keeps expanding force, rather

Literally what's now become my biggest concern

Say, I thought a bit of the implications of this move relearner thing. What does it mean for pokes imported to PLA? You can only set their moves to something that *is* present in the game, is that correct? Also, speaking of PLA, does that mean the automatic move resettal from moving pokes...

1st option is 99,99% out the window bar pokemon coming from BDSP specifically, so we're left with 2 and 3. Ngl, 2nd option doesnt sound actually THAT bad, except there are instances where a pokemon would lose a move that is absolutely *instrumental* for it to be able to do something (I mentioned...

It's basically the movepool dexit we all were dreading. BUT, it seems a sort of move relearner is being added in the future. Leakers say it's pretty disappointing tho, they didn't specify why EDIT: the way they put it on the website, I THINK they mean the movepool dexit is happening, but just...

Hahahahahaha I like it, it's basically Fauxrceus

Yeah about that, I am very curious because what proves the most that Centro was pulling that out their butt is the fact that information is probably going to come from Home datamines and not SV datamines, and regarding that, nobody went and looked at Home to see how it'd interact with SV? Is it...

It IS ketsuban, but transcribed in the old Kunrei system

No problem man, as you can see even I tend to read not very carefully sometimes as I mentioned that you had read till page 230 whereas that was just the point the conversation was at when you started. My bad on that one too.

I find it quite funny you read all 230 pages and thought I was referring to darkest lariat as an isle of armor move, goes on to show how exhausted you were when you got there, the reason nobody batted an eye is because they were actually following the conversation

God I hope you're right. But my faith is thin atm. I've already seen this shit happen with another game that's been going on for 18+ years, and I feel like I'm going through that again.

Also guys, I don't think you realize the MASSIVE impact losing universal toxic and widespread knock off will have in making the playstyle evolve in addition to nerfing it: Stall in my opinion isn't dead yet, it's just going to change. From a bunch of regenerating chippers with poisons and burns...

While no one would like this to be false more than me (I basically lost months and months of work getting some 25 boxes of mons ready for SV, came to the realization I definitely lost money on that BDSP travesty and suddenly lost all hype for Game Boy Online), all clues point to this being the...

Depends if you count pla mons. Hzoro got nerfed so its stats would be in line with uzoro, while kleavor got 5 atk moved to 5 spd

Having the only broken tools to check broken doodoo does not make it any less broken

Wait what? It works as hazard removal in addition to erasing terrains?

I still got natdex, your point is invalid lol, not like something has changed for vgc anyways

If razor shell isnt included im gonna get some clown makeup Virtual console only came to existance in gen 9 yall. Also did I say "will"? Plus its not 100% confirmed