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  1. dragontamer74pe

    Other Counter That Pokemon! (Final Battle Friday @ 12 PM EST)

    Focus sash was also added as some insurance against Mega Zard X or Mega Gyarados. It also almost gurantees rocks which can whittle down at team 1. Finally it could mean a potential check/ counter would have go take a hit before bringing down Terrakion. Also if team 1 pick another ground type...
  2. dragontamer74pe

    Other Counter That Pokemon! (Final Battle Friday @ 12 PM EST)

    I thought about Taunt but SD applies more pressure. Taunting Ferrothorn is risky as it could knock us down to our sash for no real advantage. If we set up an SD then we can at least hammer something or ko ferrothorn. Kyurem-B behind a sub and we send Terrakion in? Surely we send Terrakion in if...
  3. dragontamer74pe

    Other Counter That Pokemon! (Final Battle Friday @ 12 PM EST)

    Even if it doesn't set up a SD it can threaten an SD against Kyurem, meaning that the team 1 player won't want to switch. Therefore from the threat of SD we could bet a ko on Kyurem. It also means Skarm can't take on Terrakion. With EQ you aren't threatening a SD on the switch so Kyurem will...
  4. dragontamer74pe

    Other Counter That Pokemon! (Final Battle Friday @ 12 PM EST)

    The reasons why SD>EQ is that it puts more pressure on team 1 to stay in and attack it. Fighting a +2 Terrakion with its sash intact is going to be very hard. This means that team 1 are going to have to take risks to break the sash. These 50-50s if team 2 lose puts our rocks down and gives us...
  5. dragontamer74pe

    Other Counter That Pokemon! (Final Battle Friday @ 12 PM EST)

    We have 3 picks left here. We need a way to set up and remove hazards, commonly using 2 pokes. We have 1 pick left that doesn't have any restrictions and I'd like to use it in rounds 5/6, where we know our opponents team best. It also needs to put pressure on team 2. Thats why I nominated...
  6. dragontamer74pe

    Other Counter That Pokemon! (Final Battle Friday @ 12 PM EST)

    So we have 3 picks left. I take it we would want a hazard setter and remover. We would also want someone to put pressure on the other team but that would be better suited for the 5th/6th pick. Team 1 will pick a hazard setter and remover in their next picks as they want the most freedom for...
  7. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk IV [FINAL MATCH - Team 1 won!]

    Would a choice scarf victini work? Hmm I wander if v-create glaciate (stop mence) u-turn to gain momentum with rotom-W. u-turn knocks it into volt switch ko range and gains us momentum easily. Trick would be the last move to cripple slowbro. Stealth rock isn't an issue cause of blastoise. We...
  8. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk IV [FINAL MATCH - Team 1 won!]

    Correct me if I'm blind but volcarona has a focus sash and hidden power ice so mence can't even check it without prior damage. Flame body also helps a lot against Kyurem as it risks being burnt by it and ice beam clearly does loads. I actually really like the volc set. G-VPN when you ask what...
  9. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk IV [FINAL MATCH - Team 1 won!]

    I was meaning for team 1's last Pokemon. There most likely will be a pokemon that takes on our team well like hp fire Latios if we choose the scizor and blastoise combination. There are others but making an example. I think the Landorus U-turns as we stich to zapdos then volcarona comes in and...
  10. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk IV [FINAL MATCH - Team 1 won!]

    Don't we need a scarfer in our last 2 picks? Keldeo was the only thing stopping infernape from sweeping us. We need the insurance and if we have to have a spinner too then heatran can't really work. Blastoise may not make it so team 1 can't get rocks up as a gothitelle can trap it and they may...
  11. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk IV [FINAL MATCH - Team 1 won!]

    This pokemon isn't designed to switch in or it wouldn't have a sash. You could also have asked which poke chomp was goin to come in on and it doesn't. Terrakion is a great lead as it can cripple a poke and they get no rocks and we do or kill a poke and both teams get rocks. We can switch in on...
  12. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk IV [FINAL MATCH - Team 1 won!]

    What? Does this even count as an argument? A Terrakion can't switch into garchomp. I kinda knew that before you pointed it out. It is meant as a poke that can sweep team 2 ATM at +2 while also setting up rocks. It is not ment to switch into chomp but can chomp switch into it. It has a focus sash...
  13. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk IV [FINAL MATCH - Team 1 won!]

    The problem with remedy's set is, as much as I like it, it doesn't set up rocks and doesn't wear a scarf to revenge kill with. We should get these 2 picks done now in order to give our final pick more freedom. Not many scarfers can ohko an entire team and none if the team has any bulk (bar...
  14. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk IV [FINAL MATCH - Team 1 won!]

    Tbh at this point we most likely need a scarfer or a stealth rocker in order to give our final pick as much freedom as we can. As much as I love Durant this is why I wouldn't vote for it. Magnezone, apart from the picture stretching my screen so could we have a normal sprite plz, doesn't fit...
  15. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk IV [FINAL MATCH - Team 1 won!]

    Yeah I prefer body slam too. Opposing Landorus and chomp are much more easily felt with if paralysed. Jirachi, conk and cobalion are my fav sets so far as they don't compound weaknesses and jirachi offers utility and mementum while cobalion has rocks and momentum and conk hits hard. Also just...
  16. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk IV [FINAL MATCH - Team 1 won!]

    But slowbro sucks against celebi and other bulky grasses and hippowdon sucks against xatu, skarm, celebi and lati twins. Alakazam can't stand jirach and Golurk doesn't like quite a few pokes due to it being so slow. My point is every poke has counters and Latios is no exception. Another question...
  17. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk IV [FINAL MATCH - Team 1 won!]

    Latios @ Life Orb Trait: Levitate 252 spattck 252 speed 4 defence timid Draco meteor Psyshock Surf Recover This takes the same route as alakazam in the fact that it hits hard and can beat both zapdos an Terrakion one on one. It's also really powerful and has very few offensive switch ins. It...
  18. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk III [Silvershadow234 vs. New Breed]

    Absol so am I because it can actually do some damage and while Amoongus is a good choice it opens us up way to much to magmortar.
  19. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk IV [FINAL MATCH - Team 1 won!]

    Team 1 can pick gothitelle to trap gyarados, that's nice. But if the bulky one has a sub then it can just dragon tail you out while you break the sub. That's not the best for the gyarados user but using the other gyarados you get instatrapped and also you don't take hits aswell for the ability...
  20. dragontamer74pe

    Counter that Pokemon - Mk IV [FINAL MATCH - Team 1 won!]

    Yeah but it remains the same. It doesn't matter what the poke is. We'll counter/check it and you're Terrakion that sets up but we have a banded scizor who can eat a +0 cc and bp easily kos. Yes you can with some prediction then ko scizor but we most likely wont give you another turn to setup...
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