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Vacum Wave is a special move, if you didn't already know. If you did know, then a I recommend changing the nature because Adamant lowers it's power. I also say put E-Speed back on because the 3 main Luke counters I see are Gliscor, Rotom-A, and Zapdos. You'll be using Crunch on Rotom-A and...

I Pinsir can run laps around this team all day out speeds everything but Entei and Medicham, and Super-Effectively hits everything but Medicham. I suggest replacing Regigas with Dusclops. Dusclops @ leftovers 252 HP 252 Def Bold Nature WoW S-Toss Pain Split Shadow Sneak/Toxic Also Regice is...

I'm on a Mac, and I don't have a .shoddybattle, i have a shoddybattle.jnlp (what I use to load it.) If I'm supposed to have a .shoddybattle where would I find it most likely?

This team can be raped by Starmie and I don't see Dusnoir doing much for you other then spin blocking. An easy replacement for this is either ScarfRotom or even a SleepTalkng Spiritomb if you'd like.

With stealth rock, sandstorm from Tyranitar and life orbed, Salamence and Infernape will have there sweeping ability hindered. I suggest Spiritomb, who could really help the defensive core of this team. Spiritomb @ Leftovers Calm Nature 252 hp 96 def 160 spd -Rest -Sleep Talk -HP...

What are you talking about? Empoleon and Infernape can OHKO it, Hippowdon can take it on, and Rotom and Flygon dent it. This team has 0 problems with Tyranitar @ Supermarth I realize that but is that really going to do enough and I would primarily switch out on a heat rotom. @ Chenman Good...

Locopoke, I have tried Forretress and I now agree that it's much more durable and a spiker in this situation, but is Payback the best final move? Im just wondering if there is a better option. Will update main page soon.

I would have to say that Scarftran with HP Ice and Mixape can dent this team. I would suggest switching your Salamence for a Latias. Latias @ Expert Belt 252 sp.a 252 spe 6 hp -HP Fire -Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse -Surf -Protect Thats the set I always use, lures in and can kill Scizor. If he...

Doesnt the Petaya still activate after rocks though? Also, I do not find Subcharge is easy to set-up. I go in on something I counter sub, but then can't really charge due to them outspeeding and killing me after the sub is broke, if I attempt to charge

Thanks for the much needed advice. All your idea's seem like they'd work well. Im for sure going to try out the Roserade and the Heatran. The only thing I dislike about Latias is I lose U-Turn, which helps this team a large amount of the times. Though the good thing is Latias is Scizor bait, who...

Starmie absolutely destroys this team. A life orbed ice beam, surf, and tbolt set can hit super effectively for almost your whole team and you'd have to depend on Evire getting the speed boost off a tbolt. Also Mamoswine can hit your whole team if it packs stone edge. I would say add something...

I've tried the wash forme and subcharge, but they really dont help the team as much as scarf mower does. I have real trouble with latias after I changed the scarf off.

hmm alrighty sounds intresting, I'll give it a try, thanks, but is it the wash forme really more effective and mower? Leaf storm is very useful

Heatran is obviously a huge threat to this team. Tentacruel is a solid counter, but isnt going to like switching on earth powers alot with rocks in play and neither will your own Heatran. There isnt to much you could do about this expect predict around it or try running Vaporeon or something...

Every since I have started competitive battling, I have just throne random teams together, so the other day I decided I would actually test my skills and see how well my team building skills are. So far, this team has work at very well and would like to perfect it. At A Glance: lllll...