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  1. Belgian Fírnen

    Ladder Monotype [Read post #393 for Tiering Updates]

    M-Maw for Fairy and Skymin aren't broken in my opinion... But i won't say i've already said, just see last cases i've said for Shymin.
  2. Belgian Fírnen

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    Kaiser with Genesect isn't a proof he's broken, without Genesect Kaiser can beat you too. This replay doesn't show that Genesect is broken imo, it's just a banal replay.
  3. Belgian Fírnen

    Ladder Monotype [Read post #393 for Tiering Updates]

    In Monotype, you can see Pokemon who are never used in OU teams such as Whimsicott, Ludicolo and others Pokemons lowers tiers, it's one difference. But like Inscribe said it, you can have huge stats and doesn't be broken in fonction of the metagame you play. Yes, i'm happy to see you make 50...
  4. Belgian Fírnen

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    Ok so, for my bug team, honnestly, order of Pokemon are useless, if you consider this as a way to play, it's false, why? In this bug team everybody would know that leader will be Genesect... So, it isn't a bad move. Most of Zoroark in Monotype aren't play like scarf but Life Orb (Think is...
  5. Belgian Fírnen

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    Wich all respect i've for u, if you think that OU and OU monotype have the same metagame? You are completely wrong there. If you give OU cases to ban some Pokemons to monotype, please keep these cases. Aegislash is banned in OU but he isn't in mono (ghost). Talonflam isn't banned in OU but...
  6. Belgian Fírnen

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    ► I'm agree with you for the second, third points, indeed, Shaymin-Sky is played for Haxx and low Sp Def and he is difficult to counter for some types like Fighting , Water. But when I examine Pokemon able to counter (Revengekill) Shymin: • Steel: (If Shymin doesn't have HP...
  7. Belgian Fírnen

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    Water loses 90-95% against a good grass user, that's the truth. I'm aggree with you about Water, it's a top tiers and have a good coverage but like every types, it isn't impossible to win everytimes... I know Sae, he's a good water user, but don't forget he has built him team for old meta, so...
  8. Belgian Fírnen

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    Shaymin-Sky would destroy water and fighting teams? Grass destroys already these types, water, i hadn't to explain and fighting, Treerevenant, Célébi, Gourgeist, Mega-Venu, Whimsicott are perfect to destroy Fighting, so, it's not a proof that with Shaymin-Sky, grass destroy ,thanks to him...
  9. Belgian Fírnen

    Ladder Monotype [Read post #393 for Tiering Updates]

    That's funny too: 4 SpA Empoleon Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Shaymin-S: 360-424 (105.5 - 124.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO If you want show somes calculs, show all calculs...
  10. Belgian Fírnen

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    Steel teams aren't afraid by Shaymin-S, M-Scizor, Scarf Exadrill, Scarf Genesect (at the moment) and Empoleon can easily beat Shaymin-S. I'm not using Shaymin-S badly, please, i think i know how to use one Pokemon like this... Shaymin-S is less broken than Kyurem-White who can destroy a lot of...
  11. Belgian Fírnen

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    I think to M-Scizor bulky, Chansey with T-Wave, to any scarf with Rock, Fire, ice, flying move to revenge-kill, Mega-Pinsir is too a great Revenge-killer,... http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oumonotype-158148192 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oumonotype-158159352 Is Shaymin-Sky was...
  12. Belgian Fírnen

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    When you face someone, you don't use only one Pokemon, you use all Pokemons of your team, so "Shaymin-S isn't even used much in that battle", that's not an argument for me. I posted this replay to show he can be countered. Don't forget Shaymin-S lose 25% on Stealth Rock, so, if Rocks are...
  13. Belgian Fírnen

    Ladder Monotype [Read post #393 for Tiering Updates]

    Ok, so, the update is came and, with my luck, the first game i make this day (with my ground) is against Grass with Shaymin-Sky. So, i continue to say that Grass with Shaymin-Sky isn't broken. Do you want the replay? Ok, this is the replay: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oumonotype-158135940...
  14. Belgian Fírnen

    Ladder Monotype [Read post #393 for Tiering Updates]

    I didn't say he will be allowed, i just ask to test him in the metagame because, seriously, Kyurem-W is more powerfull than him and Shaymin-Sky can just haxx one opponent team and win. It will be difficult to counter Blaziken, but not impossible, i wanted just see him for the period of test...
  15. Belgian Fírnen

    Ladder Monotype [Read post #393 for Tiering Updates]

    You give examples for only 2 types, Water and Bug. Ice: The only counter is Avalugg without Stealth rock of course: +2 252 Atk Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Avalugg: 342-404 (87 - 102.7%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO 8 Atk Avalugg Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blaziken: 222-262 (73.7 -...
  16. Belgian Fírnen

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    Articuno, if we want have a Monotype tiers who is different of normal meta, we have to think differently too, M-Gengar is used as Perish Songer with Shadow Tag and, as i said to trap Scarf Normal, fighting moves. It was this reason who was banned from OU, but we aren't in OU, we are talking...
  17. Belgian Fírnen

    Ladder Monotype [Read post #393 for Tiering Updates]

    This is,in my opinion, a good idea because if we want establish Monotype as a different tiers of OU, we need to see if things are broken in OU are it in Monotype. • I think that Gengarite can be allowed too because M-Gengar was banned for trap some Pokemons such as Scarf Terrakion Close Combat...
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