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What does an actual stall team look like in ADV? Is a defensive TSS team stall, or are stall teams even more passive than that, and focus on pp stalling without using sand and spikes?

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Absolutely option 3, no ban and do nothing. Most players are on ladder anyway and thus ladder would be affected the most. The case for such a ban should be based on ladder usage statistics

Edit: moved this from the OU thread to this thread. I have been playing a cheesy poison core for a week in ladder, it has been fun and I think there is some untapped potential in this strat. I even saw a few of my opponents trying it out. Using Toxic Zapdos with this exact Snorlax set to setup...

Yeah we seem to disagree quite heavily on this matter. To me it seems like OHKO moves have better counterplay against them than any other move in the game. I do not understand either one of the speed arguments, why isn't switching to a faster pokemon for full immunity not a form of counterplay...

Thanks for the comments, appreciate having discussion about the topic. I'll address a couple of the main things here: I think there is a potential misunderstanding with my wording here, maybe due to me not being perfectly fluent in English: Previous tests have shown that the metagame doesn't...

Why are we limiting OU move variety so much with arbitrary rules? At minimum tradeback moves should be allowed in OU and no-tradebacks could replace it as the niche unofficial format for those who want to reminisce the 2,5 year window between 96-99 before tradeback moves were introduced. Some...

What is the correct way to play out a Slowbro 1v1 when both of them use the standard TWave set (Surf+Amnesia+Rest+TWave)? I guess that I should start by spamming all Amnesia PP:s, but then what? What do I do with Surfs/Rests/TWaves to maximize my chances of winning in PP?