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i ment :chien-pao: is bad in trick room

sorry, I should've worded that better, what i was trying to say is :chien-pao: can outspeed and ohko :Ursaluna-Bloodmoon: BEFORE tr goes up, i was also saying that IF tr goes up than :Ursaluna-bloodmoon: can ohko :chien-pao:. I hope this will make that have more logic behind it!

you didnt mention empoleon here, so its incorrect :) (dont question why)

A few more ideas :Ursaluna-Bloodmoon: From A- to B+ Yes :ursaluna-bloodmoon: is good in some situations but its not worthy of A-, calm mind is good setup but :Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: is pretty good counter to it as well as Taunt :Tornadus: to stop TR from going up, :chien-pao: is also a viable...

alr i will try to take your advice and inputit into my comments (also sylveon is definitly better lol)

Kingambit is good but not that good, it's a risk to bring an intimidate Pokémon against it but it's just too slow and Milotic / Empoleon does its job better. I think gastrodon is ok, but not B tier good pretty much the only water attacker in the meta right now, oger-water kills it with horn...

A few more complaints / ideas gholdengo & urshi-rapid NEED to move up a tier or 2 they're both very solid staples that can defeat pokemon in 1 shot if your not careful, gholdengo tera water nasty plot might be my favorite mon in the format, urshi-rapid with scarf might be 1 of my least favorite...

1. weezing can be a decent support mon but really it just cnat do damage and gets stuck on the field. 2. ever heard of this funny move called taunt? 3. Oger-H isn't great but I wouldn't call her mid personally I like the glass cannon playstyle that she offers and usually can take a KO or 2...

I would say that some of the rankings are not accurate, for example both weezings can be good assets to a team but after using them for a bit I’ve realized that there really wasting a team slot. While other support mons like sinistcha can do good damage wheezing cant and gets stuck on the field...

I think still think is good, but yeah I guess you have a point on why empoleon is bad, but I won’t stop trying to make him work!

As a very strong believer in Empoleon I believe that it should be in at least B- maybe even B tier, its intimidate / icy wind repellent with competitive and with TR can sweep entire teams with LO / specs and if its sitrus it can still sweep with its other moves, its also a great support Pokémon...