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Haha thanks for clearing that up, I feel the team is almost perfected, it's not very original, but it certainly works. I especially love how Celebi can Reflect on a Scizor switchin, and then Gyarados has chances to set up. Nevermind that Metagross for Swampert swap, that was plain dumb. I need...

Bump! Do you guys have some more advice in store? I thought of replacing Swampert with Metagross with SR, and maybe making some slight changes after that. Anyone can give me some tips on that? Also some more advice on the Celebi set please!

Haha is this Zeus? :P Btw, I don't think this is a generic team, I really thought of stuff for a while, it's just with standard pokes (not all the standard sets though), but they'll cover each other very good I think. It's just that I wanna win :P

I was editing all the time when you made your post, but look at the top for the changes. I gave Celebi Reflect over HP Fire, and some more SD with it. I opted for Ice Fang on Gyarados, reasons stated above. Still need advice on what to do with Heatran! Keep 'em coming!

First off, the reason I said Reflect on Latias helps against TTar is because the Pursuit doesn't hurt so much when I switch. That outta the way, I think your Celebi set is pretty horrible for this team. U-Turn doesn't really have any use combined with Reflect, especially when Celebi is faster...

Thanks for the comments so far guys. @ Twist Of Fate: you pretty much confirmed what I said one post before. I'll take the Latias Celebi switch as a 'yes'. But now is the question, what set should Celebi be running? 12 months ago 245 speed with Bold and max Defenses with ThunderWave was the...

Thanks for the input you guys, will consider! Metagross instead of Scizor is a good idea, but I think I have a better idea. Zapdos over Latias is also possible, but I got the suggestion to place Celebi over Latias. Counters Gyarados perfectly, takes on bulky waters just as well or better as...

Team at a Glance: Intro This is my first attempt at a team in about 12 months I think. I was once a pretty succesful battler on Marriland, winning and placing high in some big tournaments there. After one of my best real life friends (also very succesful battler) got involved in the Main...

I have some questions regarding the DPP differences. I'm just coming back a bit into the game, I plan on battling maybe a few times to week, regain my old status I had on marriland haha. Anyway, some things I don't really get. As a lot of players, I don't intend on buying Platinum, I don't...

Very nice team Pulse. I made an almost exact same team. Bronzong with Grass Knot, the Vaporeon Gliscor Bronzong trio, etc. I had ScarfGar over Roserade, that's all. Oh and my Tyranitar didn't have Substitute but it had Taunt. Anyway, I can safely say Celebi is really a pain for this team. None...

We don't need this. It's been discussed before, and most of all we do not want yet another centralizing fucking force. Garchomp should go. Tyranitar should go. Manaphy should stay.

My suggestion is to not spam theory, but actually do something about it. I opt for a Garchomp-less server on Shoddy for at least 2 months. Afterwards, we can check the statistics. This will be very interesting, because we can check if our assumptions are true; is it really so that the metagame...

Spikes set needs EVs to OHKO Forretress and 2HKO Skarmory with HP fire as least listed as an option. I still don't understand why the Toxic Spiker can't invest in HP and has to have a Focus Sash. Give it Leftovers or something and put Sash at options.

^ physical wall your talking about is Giratina, who is immune. Set is viable, but much less effective than the extreme killer.

Why Focus Sash on the first set? I run max HP as well there.

You guys are right. Maybe Garchomp is really leagues away from Salamence and Tyranitar. Although those two themselves are already eligible for being sent to ubers. I read this in the 'Centralization' thread, and I really think it should be done; an Garchompless server on shoddy, just to see how...

I have changed the frontpage. Metagross and Cresselia are left to be OU. I am working on a tournament in which you'll hopefully all participate.

Thank you guys for all your replies and opinions. I came to the conclusion that I banned Metagross, Cresselia and maybe Salamence a bit too fast. I am positive that Garchomp and Tyranitar should go, though. How about making this bigger and let everyone know? I don't really have good contacts...

I wouldn't really count Explosion.. but you're greatly missing the point.

Ok, you countered my examples which I made in 1 minute. Great. Saying why Garchomp and not Heatran?? is really a dumb thing to say. Heatran has numerous counters. Snorlax, Blissey, Vaporeon, Suicune, Swampert etc. That's exactly the point im making and you clearly missed it.