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Why would anyone ever do this. Some silly type shit. http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-135152009 123blank321 sent out Mawile! The opposing Mawile intimidates Stupid duck(Heatran)! Stupid duck's(Heatran) Attack fell! Stupid duck(Heatran) restored HP using its Leftovers! Turn 3 You have 150...

Someone using a mono fire type team, Told me he bet I couldn't win without rocks. So I set them up first turn because it's a mono fire type in OU with no possible spinner/deffoger outside of charizard, I had no reason not too lol. He then called me a pussy and lost,

Volcarona Talonflame Weavile and Cloyster on the same team without any rapid spin or defog support.

A team with Chansey and Blissey... maybe not a crappy idea but I definitely found it to be "silly"

Higher up on the ladder in the 1500 range, a team of 6 set up sweepers featuring; Mixed Un Mega Evolved Charizard Y, I don't understand the point of not mega evolving but also going for Flare Blitz A Dragon Dancing Dragonite that was tricked Choice Specs but came back in and went for Dragon...

Had to register a new account bc I forgot my password -_-, but on the lower ends of the OU ladder EVERY team has a Ninjask I don't know why. Dragalge going for Thunderbolt, on a Landorus-T Gengar going for Thunderbolt....on Mega Venasaur

I think this gen Scarfers will have a more prominent role in UU and lower tiers than in priority filled OU. Although I do not think Scarfers should be entirely overlooked in the OU metagame. Once the priority user or users are gone the Scarfed Pokemon has their time to shine. Even in OU two...

Granbull with Outrage. Why.

I agree with banning Swagger, I hate Swagger, But I think banning the combination is the most likely to happen

I think that's kinda ridiculous, it's a slippery slope argument. I don't think the community would allow such a silly thing to happen. There's no reason we can't have more complex bans. Blaze Blaziken should be in lower tiers because it really can't do anything. I know that makes things more...

If the problem is Swagger in combination with Prankster (which it is) why not ban that in combination with Prankster? Out of the choices offered in the OP I think that's the most logical. There's nothing really broken about a non-prankster user going for Swagger and Foul Play, It's the specific...

Just for fun a full SwagPlay team can use Swagger 144 times or 130 times depending on if the 6th member is ditto or not. So you would have to switch in and out 130-144 times to ensure you wouldn't be able to be Swaggered. What a balanced strategy.

You've said it multiple times but that doesn't mean the reasoning is valid, you can switch out to avoid confusion but if they're running a team of Swagplayers then they're just going to keep using Swagger so it really doesn't matter. It inherently puts the momentum on your opponents side so just...

That justification really doesn't make a lot of sense. It's ok to hax towards your opponent but the opponent can't set up hax? At the end of the day Swagger and Evasion almost fill the same roll, leaving the game up to the RNG rather than making correct predictions.

Like I've said numerous times I'm in favor of a complex ban of Swagger in conjunction with Prankster, there's no point in making the ban even more complex by banning an entire 4 move set when Swagger is clearly the problem in the equation. Non Pranksters with Swagger is fine. At the same time...

What strategies does that limit that aren't entirely hax based? It seems the anti-ban crowd is more focused on freedom of choice than the actual metagame. We shouldn't limit player's options guys lets allow Evasion moves everyone will just have to run Shock Wave and Aerial Ace to compensate. We...

I'm not asking for a ban of swagger and twave if you really enjoy that for some reason then that's fine by me. I support a complex ban of Swagger in conjunction with Prankster because there really are no good checks or counters and no team should have to be built around countering Swagger Play...

Thunder wave isn't hax in the same sense because of the amount of counters it has ie any ground type and any electric type while Swagger's stop are either Own Tempo pokes (which previous posts have illustrated how hilariously bad those are) or magic bouncers, who still take a good load of damage...

Burns freezes paras and crits off of attacking movies are nothing like Swagger. Swagger is literally just hax whereas an attacking move with another effect may induce hax. Taunting a Prankster before they start their shenanigans is only possible if you have a Pokemon with Prankster who is also...

To me this seems fairly simple. I believe a "complex ban" on Swagger in conjunction with Prankster would be most viable. To those who are in favor of keeping Swagger as it as I'd like to ask why. To those who say it "diversifies the metagame" that is an invalid opinion. Evasion moves and...