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  1. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Those are some pretty hot takes. 1. No, Sleep was always a ridiculous status and sleeping a mon in SV OU was like getting a KO. Sleep Clause was basically an arbitrary complex nerf to Sleep, and Sleep Clause wouldn't be made in modern day Smogon. 2. Darkrai isn't even a Top 10 mon, and Iron...
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    Pokémon Presents - Pokémon Day 2025 - Pokemon ZA Info & Pokemon Champions Announced

    I can see Mega Victreebel having an offensive version of Corrosion in that instead of being able to Poison any Pokemon regardless of its typing it can hit all Pokemon with its Poison-type damage-dealing moves, meaning Steel-type Pokemon aren't immune to Sludge Bomb/Sludge Wave, and it bypasses...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Naw, Scream Tail is worse at doing that 'cause even though it's bulkier than Jirachi it's extremely passive with a Dazzling Gleam that tickles the opponent's mons whereas Iron Head is threatening to a good amount of slower Pokemon ('cause of the flinch chance and Jirachi's much higher Base...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    No, S+ is reserved for mons in which you are actively harming yourself by not using the mon due to how splashable and useful they are, like Primal Groudon in Gens 6 and 7 Ubers. Dragonite will never be S+ in SV OU. And being in the S-ranks in viability has never been necessarily been a tell of...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    I feel for you. I don't believe there's even a remotely good way to determine that that set you faced is that set just by looking at your opponent's team composition. This is one of the reasons SV OU has such high variance in that you can not only change a mon's types to gain more set-up...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Personally, I do not agree with Finchinator and others who have the same view as him that the pro-Tera Blast supect camp must prove that Tera Blast is broken for a suspect to proceed. The tiering framework does indicate that an element can be acted on if broken, uncompetitive, and/or unhealthy...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Yeah, fat hasn't really notably improved after Roaring Moon's ban, and certain Ceruledge sets are even more demonic against fat than many Roaring Moon sets given Ceruledge doesn't exactly have widely consistent defensive counterplay with strong tools in Bitter Blade and Taunt. I'd go further...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Being misinformed doesn't mean one is necessarily making or intending to make a conspiracy theory, and this is part of what I dislike about American tribalism and the culture in the U.S., but I'll drop this subject now though since you've already explained why the general playerbase's write-ins...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    This is uncalled for given you're replying to me, and I have never stated that the OU Council ignores the will of the people. I just favour the council tiering towards high level play, which should be how it works. If that wasn't the case, Toxapex would be suspected in Gen 7 'cause low ladder...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Can you stop bringing American toxicity (calling anything you dislike a conspiracy theory) into this with randomly calling my take a conspiracy theory? As can be seen by the results of the OU surveys, it is a fact that whoever posts the survey results only posts honourable mentions/write-in...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    I believe it's perfectly true. Whenever Finchinator or someone on the OU Council cites the numbers regarding the decision to suspect something, the focus is almost always on the qualified demographic, and it has been stated more than once that Smogon tiers around high-level play, whether it be...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Suspecting something that has nowhere near the support to get banned would be a waste of time. Gliscor was last suspected 8 months ago and Kyurem 10 months ago, so more than enough time has passed for them to be suspected again. I know you really hate Ogerpon-Wellspring, but the community at...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    That's only if you include the general playerbase as a whole, and since the OU Council only looks at the qualified demographic when determining what to suspect, it was Gliscor that had the highest survey score followed by Kyurem. Ogerpon-Wellspring has the highest (downward) shift in score from...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Personally, I don't believe the support will ever be there to ban Ogerpon-Wellspring even if I hate her effect on the builder to an extent since not enough offense players would get on board with banning her, whereas with Kyurem, it almost happened if not for one troll DNB vote from LoseToRU? I...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    I'm guessing the Policy Review thread will be about Tera Blast. After the recent update to the tiering framework that qualified in which circumstances are non-Pokemon elements bannable, Tera Blast appears on the surface to be off the table regarding tiering action. Thus, it's possible a number...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    You have nothing to apologize for. No previous OU Tier Leader has been as readily transparent and public-facing as you have been. You're doing an outright excellent job as the tier leader here. A large part of why SV OU has gotten to a tolerable place is 'cause of your outstanding leadership.
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    Metagame National Dex Metagame Discussion

    I'm surprised Ogerpon-Wellspring is the one who gets a suspect test when Gliscor had a higher score on the latest survey by the qualified pool of survey takers, who consist of most of the players who will be getting reqs. OU straight up ignores the survey answers of the general playerbase with...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    There has been fearmongering about Boots spam since at least the Volcarona suspect, and Boots spam has not been broken after Volcarona was banned, after Gouging Fire was banned, which 'his holiness' CTC was adamant would happen (which was completely wrong), or after Roaring Moon was banned, and...
  19. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    While I wouldn't be against a Tera Blast ban, the OU playerbase has not even gotten to a point in which it agreed that there needs to be action on Tera with the first Tera suspect only resulting in 58% wanting action on Tera and subsequent surveys (aside from the one in July 2023) showing waning...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    There is 0 reason to believe that Pokemon Champions is coming close to the end of Gen 9. Gamefreak said either this year or last year that it'd either hire more employees to keep the release cycle every three years or extend the release cycle due to not having the resources to continue at its...
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