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Me when a very predictable, passive mon loses to a powerful wallbreaker that runs taunt: Stall usually gets shafted when any powerful wallbreaker is prominent in the meta. I would expect Pex usage rates to rise during the suspect; if Fin stays unbanned, Pex might even rise back into OU (it...

Yeah, because it's pure overkill to use the band set. Why bring a nuke to the archery range?

I cooked up a Zamazenta set specifically to counter Palafin (speedcreeps it by 1, lives a 252 Atk Banded Wave Crash + another after Iron Defense), and it works pretty well against every set you might see. (It loses to 252 Def 252 Atk Adamant Tera Fairy Tera Blast though.) But low ladder players...

LoseToRU? falling for bait, many such cases

Side note, Alolan Raichu would be unviable in SV OU even with Rising Voltage. I used it in SS OU and it sucked because Rilla hardcountered it + it died to all priority. Plus, it got completely hardwalled by Zapdos (who isn't affected by Rising Voltage). Now, not only go we have Rilla and...

Why are we banning mons because they "might be broken"? Are we going to ban Ursaluna before release next because "it'll be so busted, trust!!!" We've seen these guys in the tier, and while they might be overtuned, banning Booster would be foolish, since it wouldn't even hurt them that much...

Let me guess, the other 2 moves are Defog and Mortal Spin

This is basically it. There's no reason to use a low tier shitmon to check Gambit when you can use Zamazenta, and even if you quad resist Dark, well Val already does that. The meta is self-contained and exclusive, since everything good is already in OU and there's not much reason to use...

peak fiction

That's exactly what would happen, yeah lmao. Like 90% of posts in this thread, that post was reaction farming bait, sorry if it was too believable

You're not thinking like a real grandmaster -- the thought is Palafin priority is so strong that all other priority users will fall out of the meta, thus creating a role vacuum for Palafin to fill.

This is like saying: "hey, this meta needs something to check Roaring Moon! Let's unban Zacian-Crowned!". And then the Palafin becomes the next busted, uncheckable offensive threat that breaks through everything. And this won't help slower balance teams either, since anything slower than...

Because you can only use BU Taunt Palafin in Sun, doctor's orders sorry

And fin has better bulk and a better movepool: better coverage like CC, better priority in Jet Punch, recovery options in Drain Punch, etc. And there's also the fact that Fin isn't locked into using one set like Basc is: it can run BU Taunt with Lefties or HDB, etc etc

Yeah, I went through every mon in the metagame (+ all the bans)and the only thing that really cares about losing blast is Volcarona (and Regieleki, but that thing would plummet right back to UU like it was in SS). Kyurem only loses a bit off its physical sets, and the same goes for everyone...

Remember the politics rules, kids! 60% supermajority is stupid and archaic when it causes something I hate to stay legal 60% supermajority is the best thing ever when it makes something I hate to stay banned

No way would Ferro be OU in gen 9. Pex is already super niche in SVOU, and Ferro isn't any better

Solgaleo would be unfun more than it is broken, it can't set up (outside of Iron Defense) and it can't OHKO you for free, but it's unkillable and can spam Knock Off, Roar, heal itself, etc. + Sunsteel Stike hurts bad even uninvested. IMO, what we should be pooling for is Arceus-Bug, now THAT...

Does anyone have a list of all mons that currently run Tera Blast on their primary sets? (Not like Tera Blast Kingambit or other cheese sets, but rather their main sets) It doesn't seem like losing Tera Blast would be a huge loss to the vast majority of mons, at worst it removes some matchup...

^, the main Espathra set was: 1. Stored Power 2. Calm Mind 3. Dazzling Gleam 4. Protect or Substitute Tera Fairy, and generally running something like 252 HP and 252 Def Hypnosis was jank matchup fish, I never saw it a single time. I could imagine that people ran it, but it seems suboptimal...