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  1. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    I disagree about Quaquaval becoming the premier Water-type breaker in OU with Ogerpon-Wellspring banned as she isn't the only reason Quaquaval is rarely used in OU. Yeah, being reliant on Water STAB is not ideal given Wellspring's Water Absorb, but Wogerpon absolutely does not shrug off...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    I agree that broken checks broken is not a good tiering mantra, but Gouging Fire actually has higher viability than Dialga in Ubers and Ubers UU, and Dialga would probably be less broken than Gouging Fire was in OU due to it lacking the means to be a set-up threat along with Gouging Fire having...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Gholdengo didn't really have a similar role to the Rotom appliances as the Rotom appliances weren't breakers who could only be outoffensed. Yeah, they also served as spinblockers, but that's the end of any similarities they had. Gholdengo has a much bigger impact on the meta than they did given...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    This is an excellent post and the best argument for why arguing about Gholdengo's excellent offensive capability perhaps being too good is a better avenue by which those who want to ban Gholdengo should center their arguments. Good As Gold can complement your arguments on why it's very hard to...
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    Pokémon Presents - Pokémon Day 2025 - Pokemon ZA Info & Pokemon Champions Announced

    Given Mega Dragonite's design focuses heavily on its kindness and even ending battles quickly, I can see it getting a signature move called "Wings of Mercy", which will be either 100 or 110 BP, and if it's 110 BP, it'll either have less than 100% accuracy or some other downside given Boombust...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Seraphyde's not a troll, just a very bad HO player who doesn't know how to make progress without easy hazards, which is one of the reasons he has at least on one occasion called Great Tusk banworthy 'cause of Rapid Spin...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Those are some pretty hot takes. 1. No, Sleep was always a ridiculous status and sleeping a mon in SV OU was like getting a KO. Sleep Clause was basically an arbitrary complex nerf to Sleep, and Sleep Clause wouldn't be made in modern day Smogon. 2. Darkrai isn't even a Top 10 mon, and Iron...
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    Pokémon Presents - Pokémon Day 2025 - Pokemon ZA Info & Pokemon Champions Announced

    I can see Mega Victreebel having an offensive version of Corrosion in that instead of being able to Poison any Pokemon regardless of its typing it can hit all Pokemon with its Poison-type damage-dealing moves, meaning Steel-type Pokemon aren't immune to Sludge Bomb/Sludge Wave, and it bypasses...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Naw, Scream Tail is worse at doing that 'cause even though it's bulkier than Jirachi it's extremely passive with a Dazzling Gleam that tickles the opponent's mons whereas Iron Head is threatening to a good amount of slower Pokemon ('cause of the flinch chance and Jirachi's much higher Base...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    No, S+ is reserved for mons in which you are actively harming yourself by not using the mon due to how splashable and useful they are, like Primal Groudon in Gens 6 and 7 Ubers. Dragonite will never be S+ in SV OU. And being in the S-ranks in viability has never been necessarily been a tell of...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    I feel for you. I don't believe there's even a remotely good way to determine that that set you faced is that set just by looking at your opponent's team composition. This is one of the reasons SV OU has such high variance in that you can not only change a mon's types to gain more set-up...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Personally, I do not agree with Finchinator and others who have the same view as him that the pro-Tera Blast supect camp must prove that Tera Blast is broken for a suspect to proceed. The tiering framework does indicate that an element can be acted on if broken, uncompetitive, and/or unhealthy...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Yeah, fat hasn't really notably improved after Roaring Moon's ban, and certain Ceruledge sets are even more demonic against fat than many Roaring Moon sets given Ceruledge doesn't exactly have widely consistent defensive counterplay with strong tools in Bitter Blade and Taunt. I'd go further...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Being misinformed doesn't mean one is necessarily making or intending to make a conspiracy theory, and this is part of what I dislike about American tribalism and the culture in the U.S., but I'll drop this subject now though since you've already explained why the general playerbase's write-ins...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    This is uncalled for given you're replying to me, and I have never stated that the OU Council ignores the will of the people. I just favour the council tiering towards high level play, which should be how it works. If that wasn't the case, Toxapex would be suspected in Gen 7 'cause low ladder...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Can you stop bringing American toxicity (calling anything you dislike a conspiracy theory) into this with randomly calling my take a conspiracy theory? As can be seen by the results of the OU surveys, it is a fact that whoever posts the survey results only posts honourable mentions/write-in...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    I believe it's perfectly true. Whenever Finchinator or someone on the OU Council cites the numbers regarding the decision to suspect something, the focus is almost always on the qualified demographic, and it has been stated more than once that Smogon tiers around high-level play, whether it be...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Suspecting something that has nowhere near the support to get banned would be a waste of time. Gliscor was last suspected 8 months ago and Kyurem 10 months ago, so more than enough time has passed for them to be suspected again. I know you really hate Ogerpon-Wellspring, but the community at...
  19. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    That's only if you include the general playerbase as a whole, and since the OU Council only looks at the qualified demographic when determining what to suspect, it was Gliscor that had the highest survey score followed by Kyurem. Ogerpon-Wellspring has the highest (downward) shift in score from...
  20. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

    Personally, I don't believe the support will ever be there to ban Ogerpon-Wellspring even if I hate her effect on the builder to an extent since not enough offense players would get on board with banning her, whereas with Kyurem, it almost happened if not for one troll DNB vote from LoseToRU? I...
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