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In the age old tours versus ladder debate I'm always of the opinion that this thread should favor ladder style over tour style on the logic that tour players do not need a viability thread to tell them what is and is not good. Tour players are generally the best in this game, but there is a...

Kommo-o counters the most common sets of MGyara and Ash-gren. They CAN run ice coverage, but in practice rarely do. Anyone saying Kommo counters chomp does not know the definition of counter, or even check. Best answer is that Kommo beats chomp after Kommo has setup. I think one thing Kommo-O...

If you EV it properly (I forget my exact spread), it can beat every Lele except Calm Mind, and can even beat Calm Mind with perfect play. I used it as my Lele check on steelix stall team. (The RMT spread is out of date.) Down side of course is that it is less reliable against physical attackers.

I'm going to challenge the notion that something should stay ranked because it can be ok. There are a lot of mons that can be ok in OU that don't get ranked. My understanding of the ranking criteria is "viable"(as in can do things semi-consistently) and has a unique niche that distinguishes it...

I'll second this. Unlike the thundy-t nom earlier, I legit have not seen Mega Manectric on a decent team in forever. In a vacuum it may have some niche uses over koko or in tandem with it as an electric spam core, but I can't ever justify the use of a mega slot on so shitty a mon. The...

Heatran is so far above the rest of the metagame right now if you wanted to move the rest of S tier to S- it would be reasonable. With zygarde gone it lost its most useable reliable switchin. Sure rotom-w has surged back with a vengeance, but the washing machine is nowhere close to the threat...

Confirming Akashi defeated me 2-0. GGs man, couple of nailbiters, wish we could have had a third game, because the first two were good.

I'm a little disappointed Ninetales didn't make it onto the board as I think sun is really underrated, but not terribly surprised since 0 tour players are using it. I would like to nom Kommo-O > C+ (or higher, but I can probably only convince people of C+): The Komodo dragon just rose a rank so...

Finch gave a good answer on bulky offense, but if you're going in a more hyper offense approach use complementary sweepers that take care of each others answers and use em as setup fodder. An example of this is something like blacephalon plus Kommo-O. Blace can be pretty deadly but is easilly...

Activity Win Request No sign of GuiGuiZin who I contacted on February 4th and has not been seen since February 3rd.

I'm going to hard disagree with this statement. One whirlpool's 6% additional damage means it's getting solid chip 85% of the time, meaning with rocks and protect it is doing 24% every switchin without factoring in whirlpool's shitty damage and netting a 3HKO (on the switch) on a lot of mons...

Like 4 pages back I nommed ninetales and venusaur back as a general sun is c- viability nom. I didn't have all the replays I wanted, but was too busy to get the replays I wanted, and since it's so far back I was afraid no one would see them. https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-861063214...

You need to compare Hexgar to its actual competition (Blacephalon) and not to shadow ball gar. Now Blace gets WoW (even though it very rarely runs it) so the only real question is whether hex's power justifies Gengar's usage. Looking at the two mons you described and using Blace's speed boosting...

Couple recent noms I wanted to sound off on: Kommo-O to C+: So much agree! I find myself throwing Kommo onto more and more teams as it is really unique in what it checks (name another mon that beats Ash-gren, glare-seed serp, blacephalon, heatran, and ferrothorn), and can just plain crush teams...

I dislike using usage stats to say certain sets are/aren't viable, because it assumes our community is all knowing and all using. Gigavolt Gengar could be its best set, but because so few people actually use gengar we might not know this. Usage stats are useful to know what it used in the meta...

OST round 2 opponent. I'm US Central time zone (GMT -6). Can play on the weekend.

I think the meta has shifted against mimikyu and I wouldn't mind it dropping, but I disagree with most of the argument here. I feel like you misunderstand mimi's niche on HO. Mimi isn't so much a sweeper (although it can do some damage after a boost) but it is a great security blanket for an...

If you're new to the VR thread welcome and just be aware there are some established protocols so that this thread doesn't become a complete mess. I'm relatively new to this forum myself and have learned to always read up on the protocols of all the threads. Basically in a nom you want to state...

Hopefully this puts it to bed. 252 SpA Tapu Koko Thunderbolt vs. +1 96 HP / 36 SpD Hawlucha in Electric Terrain: 330-390 (102.8 - 121.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO When I calc it I get ohko regardless of seed. I think Sickist just made a simple damage calculator mistake. Regarding Hawlucha rise...

While I very much agree with the sentiment of this post (and think the TR mons should stay C-), I'd like to point out that people thinking shuckle should be unranked don't think it is because webs sucks or is unviable, but because shuckle really sucks. Ribombee and araquanid badly outclass it as...