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2 Furious Hello everyone! First, of all let me say thanks for reading this RMT and I hope it inspires you to give VoltTurnMayhem a try while it's still featured. I started playing pokemon here way back at the beginning of season 4, but I've been away for quite a while. Recently I...

OH man people are still doing the Prankster outrage thing on Kyu-B? >_< Such a good strategy. There are some dedicated strategies that can beat it but they can't do much else. You've got to get a way to get rid of their blissey (probably) that has the actual outrage.

Hazards are definitely the most important part of hackmons, the other most important part is spore. With no sleep clause a game can get out of hand fast. Also, there is a list of the most common pokemon and the abilities they carry here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3470763...

So I've faced this in Pure Hackmons repeatedly, and it should work in Balance Hackmons as well, but you'll have to watch out for Imposter Blissey who is more common in BH. It's not my set but I'm pretty sure this is it exactly. Deoxys-S @ Lum Berry/Leftovers Ability: Prankster Nature: Timid -...

My thought too. Why not Kyurem B?

When Assist calls a multi-hit move like Outrage it should lock the user into that move as usual and result in potential confusion as usual (at least this is how it works in Platinum), currently it does neither of these things. It creates a small (although hardly significant) problem in Balanced...

Just have an alt for testing. If we were to have a ladder for testing then that ladder would not accurately represent the real ladder and you wouldn't really be testing against the kind of teams you'd see on the real tier. You'd just be fighting other garbage test teams. It makes far more sense...

Maybe we could implement Ring Target? Hackmons would really love to have it.

Well considering Hackmons and Balance Hackmons are the most common other metagames played, and the fact that everyone uses Showdown that seems unlikely Ludwig. I'm thinking we should try it with Hackmons or Balance Hackmons and see what happens. Balance Hackmons is ostensibly the preferred...

Alright I don't know about Leech Seed, but the Dragon Resistance and Lava Plume are very nice indeed. As well as the immunity to toxic spikes. Added Magic Bounce Heatran

It doesn't sound like you were playing very good players :/ I mean Magic Bounce should almost never stop hazard setters in Hackmons because they should be running mold breaker. You make an interesting argument for Lava Plume though. I'm going to try this out.

Why not use Dialga instead? You'd have one less weakness and you'd be faster.

Magic Bounce + Cosmic Power Shuckle Added

Alright, so old thread is old, but that being said if some people are interested in the idea now I'm totally in. I'd gladly set-up a weekly tournament if we could get enough people on borad. Obviously 16 plus is preferable but this definitely doable with 8 or more players if only to keep these...

Ya I've tried Swampert. the reason I didn't include it was because i never could make it fit well onto a team. So until such a time as I see it or hear of it being used successfully I decided to leave it off. By all means if you're havign a great deal of success with it let me know. I think the...

No Guard hits through Shadow Force.

Interesting idea. But it isn't near as threatening as Kyurem-B and assist will frequently select one of the other moves on the Giratina set, meaning it won't work as effectively as it should.. This will surely cause a small rise in No Guard if this becomes at all popular though. I could see...

No threat list for hackmons yet exists so I thought I should make one. The following pokemon and abilities are the most commonly seen threats in pure hackmons. While there may be others, these make up the bulk of those used and the majority of effective combinations to date. Please leave as...

As an avid player of hackmons (and balanced hackmons) this is one of the best war stories I've ever read. Genius play with the copycat struggle.