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^ and then replace explosion with rocks because i plan on dropping the atk ev's? i'll try my best to do some testing tonight so that i can update the team above

i'll try to test all of these changes in the next few days. my only question now is where to put quagsire. i really don't see anyone who can easily be replaced

heatran needs to scarf to outspeed jolly groudon and ttar needs the scarf to outspeed lati@s

Thanks for the comments guys. You guys are 100% right about ogre. My only real strategy was to paralyze it and hope that i would get some hax. I can't believe I never thought about quagsire. @calze6: do you have any EV/moveset ideas for quagsire? i have mixed feelings about rachi. I went with...

^ skarm is OU and running steels on a sunny team isn't always the best idea seeing as all fire moves are increased in power i like the hitmontop idea. you really don't have a great way of dealing with clefable atm

I've been playtesting tonight and I have made some major changes. Entry hazards became a huge problem as did dialga. Changes made will be put in bold above.

So I ran some stat calculations and max speed is the way to go. adamant nature won't let me outspeed lati@s or lugia assuming they max speed. I calculated some of my more common matchups and I am not losing out on any major KO's by dropping the adamant nature. Thank you for steering me in that...

Thanks bro. I had aqua tail on just for Groudon coverage but I rarely bring tar in on one so maybe crunch would be better in the long run, even if just for a more reliable STAB move Just out of curiosity is there anything specific that I won't outspeed without a Jolly nature? I changed the EV's...

So I used to be a pretty big OU battler but then I went to college and took a hefty break from pokemon. I've got some friends who are playing now so I re-added smogon to my bookmarked sites and have been trolling for a while trying to get back in the swing of things. My friends are all into...

i tried out starmie. i don't think it really helped too much. he was good for status absorbing, but once flygon was gone i didn't have a great switch in for electric attacks. rapid spin was pretty useless because everyone shrugs off stealth rock and toxic spikes only poisons cune, who doesn't...

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Hey guys. You've probably heard this story like a hundred times, but I'm pretty new to competitive pokemon battling and i've spend a lot of time reading RMT's and trying to learn the game. I have a shoddy account that i've spend a lot of time on using this team and i just want some suggestions...