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  1. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    That isn't really a good comparison because lucario was flat out a broken sweeper that destroyed all teams and playstyles. One sword's dance and it was potentially a 6-0 since nothing could stomach base 145 STAB Adaptability base 125 close combat or bullet punch for the very few things that...
  2. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    It's BL and unseen now without aegislash anyway. Even gallade is being discussed in the UU discussion threads as a potential drop. I don't really see how medicham's viability and usage statistics will differ with aegi than without when without it already isn't the best thing to be running in the...
  3. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    I wouldn't say heatran can hurt stall that much. Magma storm's trapping effect goes away after awhile, and heatran lacks recovery to make it incapable of dealing with chansey, who has recovery and seismic toss for fixed damage. Toxic variations can cripple mons like mandibuzz, but a stall team...
  4. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    Mawile's comparison with crawdaunt and azumaril seems very unfair imho. The thing that made mawile so deadly was the typing and bulk combined with intimidate and a massive movepool to bypass all checks. Mawile's priority isn't resisted by much (and what is resistant can't really touch mawile...
  5. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    In my defense, I never said aegislash is the one holding a choice scarf. (although I kinda like the idea now.....) I was referring to heatran sacrificing bulk and longevity to go on a more offensive role (max speed instead of HP) similar to how aegislash on certain sets forego recovery...
  6. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    Heatran obviously isn't broken, it's just overcentralizing and extremely versatile, which describes aegislash as well (which honestly I can disagree on). Also the same argument for "if heatran is scarf it loses bulk" applies to aegislash as well. Jolly head smash loses bulk and king's shield...
  7. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    Elaborate more, Why does gardevoir run focus blast? Why does altaria run earthquake (besides gross)? why does scizor run superpower? Why does serperior run hidden power ground? Why does pidgeot sometimes carry HP ground? Why does latios sometimes run EQ? Why does charizard run focus blast/EQ...
  8. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    First of all: Second of all: When did I say talonflame is like aegislash? Like really.. when? I said talonflame is checked entirely by heatran, that is all. Talonflame=hawlucha Heatran=aegislash Hawlucha is checked by aegislash the same way talonflame is checked if not hard countered by...
  9. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    I really find this as over exaggerating the overcentralization. There is no evidence on the suspect ladder that psychics become unviable in OU due to aegislash's presence in the metagame (lmao, aegi counters everything with access to shadow ball, status, and knock off?). Saying they're...
  10. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    Eh, I wouldn't say rotom and gliscor aren't as versatile or splashable. Gliscor does has the opportunity cost of synergizing poorly with lando and garchomp, two defensive and offensive pokemon teams really enjoy having, but he is still capable of running multiple sets, such as sub staller, baton...
  11. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    One thing I'd like to question, What's exactly the big deal of magnet rise? I get it lets him get past hippowdon, garchomp, lando, etc.. but doesn't wide guard already do that? With the added benefit of higher priority and ever lasting while also blocking lava plume? I guess it allows him to...
  12. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    I was tempted to make the same comparison, however I can't say king's shield is like spiky shield. For one, you're only taking some minor chip damage, and nothing more. The two users of it, common HJK users wouldn't use HJK on to begin with. Lopunny can't stay in on drain punch to begin with an...
  13. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    I don't get at all what you're trying to prove thesecondbest, I want aegislash back as much as you but a flawed argument is a flawed argument. I could say landorus-I shouldn't be banned because magnemite and aron can do shenanigans with endeavor, berry juice recycle, etc.. however they are...
  14. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    And how does double switching, zard x/y, pursuit, and sucker punch not force them excessively either? KS atleast only drops a stat in a given scenario, these 50:50s caused by aegislash only take effect against particular moves and pokemon. These 50/50s are win conditions, and much more...
  15. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    You don't have to HJK Heatran, you can EQ You don't have to HJK aegi, you can EQ Whatever you switch your potentially unreliable HJK user into for a better match up, it's going to get hit by a lava plume or something anyway. Saying you can identify which charizard it is by team preview is...
  16. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    Should you stay in and hi jump kick heatran or is it a protect set? Should you set up rocks with garchomp, switch out, or is keldeo going to get a free sub? Will it scald and potential burn my switch? Should you bring in latias to counter a zard y, or is it a zard X that sets up? Is the only...
  17. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    Replace the word aegislash with heatran, excadrill, charizard x, diancie, metagross, and any other pokemon weak to EQ. Your result is the exact same, and thus you cannot call that a 50/50 forced by aegislash. Say this a scarf lando-T, should you lock into EQ or is gengar, lando-I, or DD gyarados...
  18. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    This is assuming that aegislash is at full health. Any bit of chip damage will turn those guaranteed 2HKOs into chances to KO or guaranteed OHKOs. Especially with aegislash's primary use being switching into hits. Say he pursuit traps latios, chances are he ate a draco or EQ turning excadrill's...
  19. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    I agree with everything you say, but I wouldn't say diancie or altaria is being forced to run suboptimal coverage for aegislash. Diancie normally carries earth power for heatran, and altaria enjoys roasting ferrothorn and skarmory too with fire blast, or EQ for heatran and metagross...
  20. XMegaBeedrillX

    np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Wandering Ghosts [Aegislash remains in Ubers]

    All I'm seeing from those calcs is that you have no business even using gallade to KO aegislash. It can switch into gallade once, and the next time it has to be preservative or it's dead. If aegi shadow sneaks and gallade lives, then the scenario also plays out that aegi can be hit by knock off...
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