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Landorus-I: Ban

Sand Veil wasnt banned specifically to save Garchomp....it was deemed inherently broken, not just broken on Garchomp. Sheer Force is not inherently broken, unless you want to argue otherwise.

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gulzar-i-duniya

lol! wow this response is mad late and doesn't really matter anymore, but I appreciate the feedback. But in the end, it looks like it was banned anyways lol. Sorry for the late reply, I suck at using online forums (especially fancy high-quality ones like Smogon's), so I didnt even realize I...

lol! this response is mad late and doesn't really matter anymore, but I appreciate the feedback and I agree - it makes sense to keep out obscure, unviable "counters" lol. Sorry for the late reply, I suck at using online forums (especially fancy high-quality ones like Smogon's), so I didnt even...

Okay, first of all, you ignored the fact that Deoxys does not always get full support up, as was argued before. That is, you are assuming Deoxys can setup whatever it wants with guarantee. Second of all, recovering from a boosted Dragonite or Haxorous is impossible? If so, then I’d say one...

Deoxys can become setup fodder if it's tricked something.....or if it loses in prediction. And how is running your own Deoxys (relying on a crapshoot) more effective than killing/disabling it or rendering its efforts useless? And Normal Gem Dragonite? Where the hell did that come from? The...

Well, among many other things, you’re only addressing one mentioned method of dealing with Deoxys-S (scarfed Pokes). Even so, by the way, the scarf methods still prevent Deoxys from doing its complete job. You also mention that some scarfed Pokemon are quite useless/setup fodder – can’t the...

Uhhh, I dont think I posted anything quite unreasonable regarding the sets. I admit that a couple of them, namely scarf Alakazam and Gengar, are not recommended on Smogon's site lol. However all of the others should not be disregarded so easily. And can't either CM Espeon or Dual Screen Espeon...

I hate to break it to you, but you kind of supported the argument that it shouldn't be banned lol. The only reason I brought up prediction is precisely for the reason you brought up - it goes both ways. I mentioned in my post that both the Deoxys user and the opponent are at risk - it isn't...

I’d like to point out that Deoxys isn’t guaranteed to get full hazards or full screens at all. Sure, it has the potential to get full screens or hazards – but that is also up to the user of Deoxys to properly predict moves (whether to Taunt/Magic Mirror or not, etc). I hope I don’t get...

Why is Deoxys-S being singled out on the basis of having multiple (2 lol – 3 if u want to count that offensive set) viable sets? What about Jirachi, who can do a hell of a lot more than Deoxys? Espeon, Azelf, Alakazam, Bronzong, and Jirachi can all be considered somewhat similar to Deoxys-S in...