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Well... yes. The main set lists U-Turn so the EVs are made to reflect that. It's not really necessary for them to add a section listing the tiny 4-EV tweaks you should make if you change the moveset, that would make the article too needlessly bulky.

This might be a very easy question, or it might be one of the most complex, unanswerable questions of all... How does Battle Spot 3v3 singles differ from OU in terms of teambuilding/strategies?

ChrystalFalchion , as a strong proponent for the Z-Splash set, can you give me some insight on choosing between Adamant or Jolly for it? Since the Move Relearner will NOT relearn Splash if I change my mind and then want to go back, I get one chance to choose either Adamant or Jolly for my...

From Other Options under OP: Item: Normalium-Z (duh) Nature: Jolly / Adamant EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe I'm not sure if Adamant is the slash or the preferred Nature, but from what I've read, most are Jolly. Some suggest Jolly with Stone Edge over Flame Charge, although I don't know how...

But we're already lowering our defenses with Naive, no?

I've heard suggestions for Hasty due to giving 185 Def and 186 SpDef, giving Genesect (and maybe Porygon) the wrong Download bonus. Should it be listed?

Alright alright, point taken lol. I'm just saying, in the 25+ Celesteela builds I've seen, Giga Drain has never been there besides on Assault Vest builds.

Think it might deserve a mention in the Other Options, at least? Even if you recommend against it in the same breath, it's a worthwhile mention simply because it's out there, IMO.

I've only seen it considered on Assault Vest builds to replace Leech Seed, myself.

I LOVE this. I love unique attacks and it has always disappointed me how Nature's Madness and the Z-move were being ignored. With that said, can you weigh in on the Hasty/Naive debate? I'm very torn. What made you chose Hasty? Thanks in advance!

To change form the Zygarde must have Power Construct, so, no. The real question is whether or not the Gen 6 Zygarde can be disassembled, which they likely can.

Question about Mixed set Hidden Power choice. I've seen Ice mainly (mostly in Timid sets), some Fire, and even the occasional water. What's the best combination of moves (including Hidden Power) for a Naive (or Hasty) mixed set? I haven't seen a consensus. HP Ice is standard coverage, HP Fire...

So we would be inclined to keep his Def up, then? That explains why most mixed builds had Naive. Thanks!

Yeah, that makes sense. Hasty as the nature, huh? Sorry to keep asking questions, I'm just trying to understand - why lower Def, his higher stat, rather than SpDef? Thanks for helping!

Naive? Where did you put your EVs?

After reading everyone's post and now this one, seems to me like "pure 100% physical" is not a thing... so are we thinking Naive, then, or "Jolly because it doesn't change any of our matchups"? (I'm no good with calcs so I can't test that). EDIT: Also, EV spread? What are the arguments for HP...

That's wonderful, thank you! Perhaps I'll soft reset for Hidden Power after all. Although, it really hurts me to put a damper on that base 115 Attack. are the physical/mixed sets strictly inferior and gimmicky? If not, what are the ideal builds?

So what are the best builds for in-game? Hidden Power is utterly impossible to control, since you must endure beating the Champion and going through the cutscenes for every soft reset. So, if Hidden Power is not an option, which sets should I consider? Thanks!

Thank you both! Your responses and that link helped me decide. One last question - I like to be polite so I wanted to thank you both, but I noticed most people don't. should I avoid thank-yous because they clutter the thread?

I have looked EVERYWHERE, is there an Ash-Greninja analysis anywhere besides "pre-release discussion"? If not, can anybody suggest some movesets/natures? I want to redeem him soon but only get to pick one nature! Thanks!