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Kingdra (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Swift Swim EVs: 28 HP / 252 SAtk / 228 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Hydro Pump - Ice Beam - Dragon Pulse - Rain Dance Heatran (M) @ Air Balloon Trait: Flash Fire EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Hidden Power [Ice] -...

meh, I don't really want to consider Politoed the king when it's not Politoed that's helpful. politoed's only call is drizzle. to see what I mean, compare Politoed's base stats to Milotic. Milotic has better stats all around except for the unused attack. not only that but Milotic learns...

I've been thinking and i came to realize that this is the first generation where i can't think of a definitive "king" of the metagame. RBY was Tauros, GSC was Snorlax, RSE was Tyranitar, DPP was Heatran. but who could possibly be considered the king of BW? feels like it would've been genesect...

which is exactly the point i'm trying to make. the few things that can take Hurricanes fear Focus Blast, Superpower or Dugtrio making tornadus incredibly hard to wall.

Rotom-W slipped my mind earlier. specially defensive Rotom-W is also a great counter to Tornadus, can tank any move Tornadus has and KO with Volt Switch after Stealth Rocks. but again that's specially defensive, otherwise Rotom is 2HKOed without proper investment

i was talking about specs set, ThisMysteriousGuy brought up the tailwind set as an alternative. one thing about the tailwind set is how do you take a hit? if its meant for late game, well then most people tend to save a hard hitter for late game. how do you suppose tornadus takes a hard hit...

ah yeah, you're right. i've been using focus blast on Tornadus, forgot it had Superpower which would be a way more reliable way of dealing with it's counters. haven't tried the tailwind set so no comment.

thing about it's counters are they're so far and in between. It's main counters are Chansey, Blissey, Jirachi, Tyranitar, Heatran, Bronzong and Magnezone. Chansey & Blissey - Only 3HKOed by Focus Blast, can Softboil off damage, paralyze or poison Tornadus ending it's effectiveness, excellent...

I agree with Tornadus for A- rank. It's nearly impossible to wall seeing as almost everything that can tank Hurricanes is taken out by Dugtrio or Focus Blast. Hard to switch in but if you do manage to get Tornadus in, something has to die. Tornadus needing a spinner is a misconception also. I...

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thing about sun teams is, while there are a lot of pokemon that work amazingly under the sun there are a couple of huge problems. One is, Ninetales is awful. politoed is actually decent just outclassed without Drizzle. Ninetales on the otherhand has no standout qualities. then there is the...

well it sounds to me like you're pointing out that Chansey is a better support pokemon than Porygon2. Porygon2 shouldn't be used for support, it should be used as an offensive tank. edit: erm with that said i'm not sure if I agree with A-rank.

About the Sharpedo discussion earlier here Forretress used Volt Switch! It's super effective! The foe's Sharpedo lost 50% of its health! i find this really funny. sharpedo is just way too frail to be good, much better in UU where there is less priority and Ferrothorn isn't everywhere to...

i've used banded beartic before and it's harder to just switch in on it and kill it than you make it out to be. it's been a while so I don't remember the exact set, but this was close to it: Beartic (M) @ Choice Band Trait: Swift Swim EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) -...

when Jirachi finally gets physical steel STAB that's not Iron Head, I'm interested to see if the few people who still are keeping Metagross in OU finally stop using it. metagross has more raw power off the start, but after 1 boost (40% = 100% by the way.) Jirachi will outpower Metagross, not to...

I don't think keldeo is broken, too many things wall it. if it has hp electric it has a slim chance of getting past tentacruel and jellicent depending on the variant, but it's stopped by celebi, dragonite, special defensive jirachi and probably others that I can think of. if it has hp bug it can...

i respectfully disagree with that. genesect was revolutionary because nothing had the combination of great typing, phenomenal coverage, good ability, decent speed and bulk. it was the total package in a lot of ways. being the king of OU for at least a while, much longer on PO should give it a spot

lol, Genesect should be #1 and it's not even on your list. before it was banned, the game was pretty much Genesect's OU. nothing was more game-defining and unpredictable. i cant remember the amount of times i expected a scarfed genesect and switched accordingly, only to end up swept by a rock...

I'm not running any speed EVs though. Anyway, thanks for all the help guys. I'll be sure to test out at least some of these changes later today, especially the Kingdra sets.