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they first floated the duggy/trap issue 8 days ago, saying we could have concluded a suspect test by then is a gross overstatement, we likely wouldn't be close to an actual vote in 8 days yet. I absolutely don't disagree that this thread should have been closed a while back, but the person I...

because the possibility of quickban is on the table and some people get upset when the council quickbans shit out of the blue. If this was purely about 'should we suspect test x' then I'd agree with you, just throw out the test, but if quick ban is on the table then it's worth at least...

just doing the calc with the least effective damage from draco which shows it's fundamentally the same damage wise other than the 12% cheese, and far more effective in literally any other situation. That is, I was giving him the biggest benefit of the least damage from dracovish, and it still...

that's why i did the calc at +0, it's a raw draco on the ferrothorn on a switch which actually does less than ice fang. And ice fang chucks seis almost as hard as a draco, and leaves open the option to just keep ice fanging and potentially remove seis, which draco doesn't do effectively. the...

alright the way this was phrased was a little weird, but let me ask this: What does going mixed get you that just running ice fang doesn't? 252 Atk Strong Jaw Dracovish Ice Fang vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hydreigon: 180-214 (55.3 - 65.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Strong Jaw...

2. Bulky waters like Milotic and Jellicent were helpful with handling Darmanitan. How do you think they'll do now? probably better tbh, checking dracovish is likely to rise in priority imo, and bulky waters doing that (especially jelli with water absorb and recovery) is going to be a nice bonus...

if your goal is being ok with 2hkoing dreigon and pult, why not just use ice fang instead of dragon coverage, it 2hkos dreigon and pult. Bonus points for not leaving you completely rolled by duggy afterwords.

dug wasn't banned in that test it was scooped up in the arena trap ban.

didn't the last time they tested duggy and not arena trap people literally started using trapinch and diglett. I'm not saying it makes an arena trap quickban a given (tbh I think a quickban on duggy and a general test on arena trap is far more reasonable or just an outright suspect on one or...

even beyond the fact that darm-g is banned and not relevant anymore, not only is rapidash not an ou relevant poke by any stretch of the words it loses 40-50% hp every time it comes in on literally any of darm-g's moves and it's power is so low you can switch out with almost no punish. If you...

pawniard losing both knock off and pursuit imo is catastrophic for it's viability, forcing it down to sucker punch/night slash as it's best stabs are rough. It might have been able to survive losing one and keep on trucking, but losing both does not bode well. It still has nice resists and gets...