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You can't control those hax though, you directly control Swagplay's hax. Something you directly have a hand in (SwagPlay), is nowhere close to as fair as something you have no hand in (RNG).

So basically you feel like it shouldn't be banned because you're a fan of it? The only thing you mentioned that was an actual cheap strategy is ParaFlinch, which you don't often build whole teams around. SwagPlay teams often have prankster 3-4 members, and with a ditto in the back waiting to...

Everything you named can't continuously switch into Genesect with SR so that reduces their effectiveness as a check, but props on bringing up Rotom-H as a counter people keep overlooking that. +1 252 SpA Genesect Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Moltres: 318-376 (98.7 - 116.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO...

Though I'm pro-ban for Genesect, there is a reliable counter to it in Rotom-H who resists all of it's moves on the standard set. Rotom-H can also volt switch out upon the U-turn/Hard switch. The only flaw with using Rotom-H is the SR weakness but defog/spin support help that. This is a custom...

Faster Priority, Talonflame and Who? Scarfed mons are cool, but you'll still have to lose one mon to switch them in. And since M-Luke is usually used late game, they'll probably be weakened from damage or stealth rock so priority should hit them well.

It's not about defenses, it's about his damage output and speed. He can 2HKO practically all of OU, and has STAB adaptability priority on both physical and special sets while sitting on 112 speed.

It's not really about being SR dead, more so about it being so much easier to clear the field for Genesect. That aside I agree with most of the first two paragraphs especially the one about extremespeed and the priority meta, but about AV I feel like not enough mons use it for it on their...

Genesect: Defog has made it so much easier to remove rocks, and without that SR damage it's extremely hard to damage Genesect. It can run so many sets so it's hard to bring in something that can take the presumed hit, because it can just as easily use Shift Gear and start going to work. It...

That's not even a real check, much less counter, seeing as how you'd have to keep Golurk from taking ANY damage for the whole match until M-Luke comes in. Plus after a crunch you might still get flinch-hax'd, and then you've lost your 'check' for him.

Would you trade Conkeldurr for a perfect Dratini with Haze, Iron Tail, Aqua Jet and Extreme-Speed?

Lol, you just might have played me in the last few days.

Another thing that other goes seemingly unnoticed about Empoleon is how well he walls Greninja. 252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Empoleon: 29-34 (7.7 - 9.1%) 252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Empoleon: 103-122 (27.6 - 32.7%) -- 75.8%...

I agree with a lot of your post, I was just telling him that Physical Greninja isn't terrible and it can be used. And actually he takes over half HP on those Assault Vest users you mentioned with only two moves. I don't know why you even mentioned Goodra for your argument tbh as specially...

You must have never tried one. It's has surprisingly good success, simply due to priority and U-turn. He has access to Rock slide, Acrobatics, Shadow sneak, Night Slash, Water Shuriken, and Waterfall. So I wouldn't say he's out right terrible especially with Assault Vest entering the scene, and...

I've been think of a Metagross set. Metagross @Assault Vest 252 HP/252 SpD Careful or Adamant nature -Bullet Punch -Power-up Punch -Hammer Arm -Earthquake It has natural physical defensive bulk sitting at 130 base defense and 90 base special defense so Assault shield's +1 boost is wonderful...

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