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I would go with something like +def -atk nature leftovers 252hp 180def 78sp.atk substitute calm mind shadow ball focus blast using sub to block hits and status and calm mind to boost the really low special attack.

I've been using this for a while and it has been great. Punchnoir Dusknoir @ Leftovers EVs: 252 HP/252 Attack/6 Sp. Def. Adamant Ability: Pressure -Focus Punch -Shadow Sneak -Substitute -Will-O-Wisp/Counter I prefer WoW A punching Dusknoir that can still burn things.

thanks for the rates. but i just want you guys to know this team is not based around trick room. It's just there for me to take advantage of sometimes. I just realized my team is zapdos weak now? darn. Kinglerdude: since there was so much fire weakness i replaced metagross with gyarados. dont...

24 hour bump. I also edited the team.

I'm new to the forums and sort of new to battling. i started about 2 or 3 weeks ago and couldn't activate this forum account because it never sends the activation email to my hotmail account.. The general theme is to win with tanks that can survive hits and dish out enough damage to hit back. I...