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So far this paragraph has made the most sense out of this whole thread. As I floated out earlier, maybe petitioning for another ladder where the item clause is in effect, or as Kyrone said, just running a few tourney's using it would be ideal. Test the waters, allow players from both sides to...

I like the idea of this :) While I understand that it might not be essential to run in the standard OU metagame, I think having another ladder with a singles Item Clause would be nice. It does force you to rethink lots of Pokemon choices and it's an interesting way to play :3

Hmm been thinking about a mixed Lucario set. Hasty/Naive Lucarionite EV's: -252 Spe -152 Atk -104 Sp Atk Moves: - Bullet Punch - Vacuum Wave - Aura Sphere/Focus Blast/Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse - Close Combat/Shadow Claw Obviously you'd have to tailor the moveset around what the rest of your...

Good point... More then anything I was considering it hitting stuff that resists Bullet punch since they'll both have the same base power. Zapdos and Thunderus as a prime example. Though I can see why running it for the sake of only 2 threats is a bit silly xD

Have we already covered Bullet Punch being used over Extremespeed? I can see the benefits of type coverage but surely having a +2 priority is a point of merit. Of course, since everything is still just speculation at this stage how about this: Adamant Lucarioite EVs - 252 Attack - 252 Speed - 4...

It'll probably come down to preference in the end. Do you want the extra power or the ability to hit first? I'll probably test out both styles (And maybe a special variant to mix it up a bit!) but until we get further into the competitive field there's no solid answer :3

I like this a lot. DD solves the speed problem partially and also combined with Tough Claws gives us immense Phys power. The only question is what moves to run. Dragon Claw means we aren't locked in like Outrage, prime for a Fairy to switch in and hammer poor Zard. Plus it gets the boosts off...

I've been thinking of a mixed set for Megazard X: Hasty/Naive nature 252 Atk 252 Spd 4 SpAtk - Overheat - Flare Blitz - Outrage - Earthquake With the stat boosts on mega evo you can loose one big overheat on anything that might physically wall you (Jellicent's non-withstanding) then switch to...