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Um... i don't know if you guys have noticed, but rampardos doesn't actually learn ice punch.

i don't quite understand this. You wouldn't need a speed boost you'd need a defence like relaxed or a special def like calm. i could be completely wrong though. otherwise great team. although consider putting Agility on zapdos instead of HP Grass for speed+sub+sp. attack passing.

GYARADOS. EDIT: im going to stop looking at this chat now. the team has been finalized and made. i appreciate all of your help ^_^ bye

Well, I didn't like...make the pokeymans during school, i just thought of it and i was like "huh... this is a good idea" all i started was with the Agilitres and went from there. Yeah you're probably right, i used to have a Cradily as my stealth rocker but he's not too great. Also: No, Miltank...

make what useless? Swords Dance, Weavile, Bullet Punch, or Extreme Speed?

i find this hard to believe, how is it possible that a max attack, swords danced,life orbed, extreme speed from an adamant Lucario not OHKO a Weavile, they have a max defence of 251, MAX defence. the standard Weavile has 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spe. Neutral nature, minimum defence for a max...

based on all of your statements i have to go with Extreme Speed, i mean obviously if you send out Lucario against a Tyranitar OBVIOUSLY the Tyranitar would switch out into something that is immune to close combat or resists it. Ala Gengar. So a well predicted crunch would send the grinning ghost...

oh yeah. for some reason I though Bullet Punch was fighting. brain fart. thanks for the correction.

Interesting. I see where you're coming from, if Weavile or Gengar can beat Lucario they'll pretty much tear through the rest of my team. And Bullet Punch is a guarenteed OHKO on Weavile because of the x4 weakness. and Gengar would only get OHKO'd with crunch on a well predicted switch. I'll try...

i see where you're going with this, but Extreme Speed would one shot Weavile anyways. probably unboosted even. Gengar is one pokemon one move deals with, whereas extreme speed deals with like, 30. last time i checked, 30 > 1.

eh. Bullet Punch has less power. and less type coverage. it hits ice, and rock for super effective. something Close Combat already does. Plus STAB'd Bullet Punch does less than Extreme Speed, 40 x 50% = 60 < 80, combined with Swords Dance double them both, it's a pretty big difference. EDIT...

going back to Swampert, Energy Ball or Grass Knot on Shaymin. and I'd use Forretress if I didn't hate it with a passion ^_^ plus the 4x weakness to fire scares me. and i really like my Claydol, but I'll consider it. thanks. EDIT: Tentacruel can't baton pass, otherwise I'd consider that too. and...

Scarf Glaceon shouldn't be a problem because you have a priority super effective move in Mach Punch. Scarf Rotom is fast, but hardly a threat, just switch to your Steelix if it uses an electric attack, and if it's your opponents last pokemon Gyro Ball it to death. EDIT: No problem, I love UUs...

Brick Break over Hi Jump Kick on Medicham, because Ghosts generally switch into it, and the recoil will own you. Consider Energy Ball over Seed Flare on Shaymin, sure, it has less attack power. But the problem with Seed Flare is that every time you use it you're like "please don't miss. please...

Fix'd. EDIT: being the owner of a Swellow I know these things, Brave bird will kick your ASS considering Swellow's monsterous attack power after Guts activation, and considering Swellow is more frail than the nail on my right index finger, Protect is needed, you can use Quick Attack if you're...

what would you suggest instead of Cosmic Power? EDIT: After consulting with a few of my friends they suggest I get a Cleric Shaymin, but with Calm Nature, 252 sp.def, 252hp, 6spe. With Energy Ball/Grass Knot, Aromatherapy, Grasswhistle, and Rest. I would be replacing my Miltank with this...

Stealth Rocks is WHY Claydol has Rapid Spin though.

1. Floatzel. Nature: Jolly @ Leftovers EVs: 40hp, 252def, 212spe. Moves: Waterfall, Taunt, Bulk Up, Baton Pass. This Floatzel has 1 move that takes care of the 3 things I have had considerable trouble with in the past. SkarmBliss (among other walls), Ninjask starter baton passes, and getting...