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http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthread.php?23198-Roar-Bypasses-Protect-(XY-OU-Tested) Unless that only works for wild battles? I heard it goes through all the time like that Edit: Yeah it says here that it does too: http://www.smogon.com/xyhub/ along with lots of others reporting it...

My experiences using Milotic so far (thank you random gts person for the feebas!): Using Bold, 252 Hp, 252 Def, 4 SpDef Leftovers -Rest -Sleep Talk -Scald -Dragon Tail First of all, Milotic is still amazing. Lots of burn being passed around, able to control switching with dragon tail, great...

You get it exactly! Thank you. This means I'll start testing out the standard Milotic against all the new guys and new builds to see where it's lacking. I have a feeling that with the power creep that I'll either need more defense, or less and have more special defense to dual tank better...

No I mean, it may not need that much defense if the main OU threats can already, say, 2hko her, then those EVs can be invested elsewhere. I was wondering if the EV spread was tested with the top OU guys or just thrown on so it can survive in general

Just got a feebas so I'm going to start testing, but I have a question first if anybody knows: The EVs of Milotic, what are they based on? Most sets I see these days have 252 HP and 252 Def with 4 in SpAtk or SpDef, but is that necessary? Does having 252 Def let it survive more hits from some...

This exactly I've usually experienced dealing with sub boosting pokemon pretty easily, if I see a sub, it usually will break in 2 hits, so depending on the timing of when they use the sub and I use dtail (and depending on the pokemon), I either break it once, then switch to skarmory when they...

Right, I meant last gen. Can't wait for pokemon bank to test out new milotic stuff

Curiosity, why haze over dragon tail? Milotic's also my absolute favorite, and I always used dragon tail, it was perfect when they switched I could read it, doubling SR/spikes damage. Or just forcing out something threatening and scalding, passing burns around. Plus rest talking dragon tail...