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It doesn't work really, like it doesn't work on the choice banded sets (where it's suggested on the analysis). I already stated that ice beam is the better option, at least read what's been said and wrote before you come at me like that or your argument is "empty and theoretical at best".

If you invest in bullet punch or flash cannon it OHKOes Togekiss...

So no one has caught on to the fact that download is essentially a free choice item which means that although people are saying "herp derp it's easy to beat it just predict this or that" (which isn't the case since the only legit OU counter is Heatran, while Rotom-H is dwelling in UU-) are...

You do realise that all of these defensively biased ev spreads are so over centralising to the point that they are solely for mega lucario and pretty much make the offensively based pokemon useless in every other situation right?

About Freeze Shock, it's actually better on the sub sets, just sayin. It uses the same principle as sub-focus punch and is therefore more effective on sub variants of cube, losing a sub is better than losing your pokemon. I would suggest you mention it on the sub set rather than the choice...

I doubt I'll ladder in time to meet the suspects (I'm just way too lazy) though I will add that Lucarionite and Genesect do need to go. Mega Lucario has already been discussed so much and I would just like to re-iterate that "checking" or "revenge killing" mega lucario isn't enough of a reason...

Maybe you didn't notice that it's a gimmick team based around Spite'ing away your opponents PP, not focused around pressure stallin, it took like 3mins to make and once I had battled with it a few time's I was bored of it.

I have a scarf EV spread for cube that you may have not found which is why your probably don't think it's better, it's mostly a revenge kill set as it's able to ohko or 2hko a lot of pokemon EV Spread is 146 Atk / 252 SpAtk / 112 Spd with a Rash or Mild Nature Fusion Bolt, Outrage, Ice Beam...

I actually made a more PP stall version of this team, focusing around a couple of pressure mons and spite, though I made it mostly as a joke to see if it was viable. In 3 battles though I did get a struggle and I would at least kill 4 mons on the opposing team by spite stalling them almost into...

I guess it works kinda since hyper voice can break through subs so mega gardevoir is capable of always checking mega heracross, though having such an offensive niche with your cleric is generally a bad idea imo. Knowing that you're able to survive hits from certain mons (and with base 65 even...

I use Crobat on my stall team to prevent Mega Heracross being a problem since the most difficult variants run sub and 3 attacks, it's a massive threat to stall teams due to it's sheer power being able to break through even the most defensive mons. I've faced Mega Heracross now about 3 times...

I have them all covered on the set with a / between flare blitz and dragon claw. The SubPunch strat does work the same as the DDance one (bring it in on something it will wall or force a switch), except instead of dancing you're setting up a sub to stop things from status'ing you, yeh I know...

- Landorus-T - cares about being able to intimidate and duh intimidate doesn't penetrate subs... - Talonflame - cares about being able to hit Charizard and not it's sub and is wrecked by dragon claw - Choice scarf user like Garchomp, Terrakion, Latios - AGAIN YOU'RE RUNNING A SUB SET THEY CAN'T...

D/Claw is slashed on the set along with Flare Bitz, you don't miss out on anything you can choose whichever stab you want to use.... sub-punch is far from a gimmick, I've already stated it's uses to get past bulkier threats that are either 3hko by dragon claw/resist flare blitz or all of the above.

It's not really useless, since the amount of recoil damage you take from Flare Blitzing Chansey and Blissey to death will end up in you being dead or wasting roost pp while they heal up too and as you can see Dragon Claw is slashed on the set in case you forgo Flare Blitz all together in an...

I know it's late into QC but I'm surprised no-one has came across this set Charizard @ Charizardite X Ability: Blaze EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Jolly Nature - Flare Blitz/Dragon Claw - Focus Punch - Roost - Substitute This set abuses the fact that charizard can learn focus punch and that...

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-77063597 Abusing Genesect on the ladder with one of its old partners Traptrio, Dugtrio immediately eliminates the one threat to a genesect sweep on the team and then I just lolsy play around with my sub puncher mega zard x before an inevitable forfeit. Which...

If they have a defogger it can kinda work in your favour too though if you have hazards up since more offensive teams are weaker to rocks than most stall teams you can bait their rapid spinner/defogger out by using rocks while keeping your switches offensively prepared for them. For example, if...

If you're bothered by opposing clerics my suggestion (knock off on clefable) + the addition of taunt on heatran over protect makes all clerics useless, the initial knock off of their item cripples them and with taunt you prevent them for ever being able to do cleric'y things, I use the same...

Your EV's are well off for mega garchomp as a wall breaker, just saying. And that's more an argument for using a cleric on a stall team rather than just purely rotom-h, it looked like the guy you was vs had just copied aj's stall team except he for some reason wasn't using chansey. EDIT: How...