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  1. Resource ORAS OU Viability Ranking Thread V4

    If there is anything remotely broken about clefable its twave. Clef probably wouldn't even be S rank without the power of yellow magic, i mean that move alone invalidates like 90% of clefs natural counters and the only things immune to it aka ground and electrics happen to be set up bait for...
  2. Resource ORAS OU Viability Ranking Thread V4

    Even with max sdef mew, cele and slowking can't switch into timid hypervoice after rocks without getting 2hkoed, wouldn't call that "comfortably". Not to mention that Garde can easily run modest if you don't care about speed ties. Useless was maybe a little overblown but the typical stall team...
  3. Resource ORAS OU Viability Ranking Thread V4

    Someone mind telling me how "Diancie is the objectively best fairy in the tier"? (i assume you mean offensive fairys since its certainly not better than the master of yellow magic himself right?) I've read the this notion ever now and then through out the last year and i never really...
  4. np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 6 - Purple Haze - Hoopa-U is now banned

    After watching those replays i somewhat understand why most tour players find Hoopa ban worthy and where the current hype around it is coming from in general. If those games are somewhat representative of the current meta game in the tour scene then its honestly no suprise that hoopa is out of...
  5. np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 6 - Purple Haze - Hoopa-U is now banned

    Nobody used Sdef unaware Clefable before Manaphy became a thing because there was no reason to do so. Just like nobody used Scarf Ttar until now because there was no reason to do so. Both cases show stall adapting to a new threat it needs to prepare for. The way i see it your whole argument is...
  6. np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 6 - Purple Haze - Hoopa-U is now banned

    Stall also needs to run Sdef Clefable otherwise it's 6-0ed by TG RD Manaphy, and in this case its really a 6-0, there is absolutely nothing stall can do, even a monkey can beat a stall team lacking clef with that set. The Manaphy user doesn't even have to predict in the slightest. Most top tier...
  7. np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 6 - Purple Haze - Hoopa-U is now banned

    I am not saying that the 0 counters argument is irrelevant, there aren't any that's a fact. And i totally agree that Hoopa has a good risk/reward ratio due to its power and perfect coverage. I just think its not as good as many arguments here are making it out to be. Whats more, the only...
  8. np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 6 - Purple Haze - Hoopa-U is now banned

    Hoopas best sets are choiced sets, according to CBB its the Specs set alone that makes Hoopa suspect worthy and you can't deny that locking yourself into a move has some risk attached to it. How much risk depends on the move and with Darkpulse Hoopa is certainly at the better end but still. All...
  9. np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 6 - Purple Haze - Hoopa-U is now banned

    Imo thats the big thing here. The whole argument of "it 2hkoes everything" is implying perfect prediction the whole time and nobody seems to care. The whole Hoopa vs stall thing is totaly overblown anyway. Just take a 0815 stall team with sab, chans, skarm, quag, clef, amoon. If we look at these...
  10. Resource ORAS OU Viability Ranking Thread V4

    I think you forgot a small but important detail. Its "Mega" Charizard, aka it needs to hold a mega stone to do that. Haxorus doesn't. He can go and use a life orb and i'd say that changes the damage picture a little. And you can use a mega in addition to Haxorus. Not tying with base 100 mons...
  11. np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 6 - Purple Haze - Hoopa-U is now banned

    I really wonder if these suspect threads will ever change... anytime some powerful wall breaker pops up the crying starts: "meh this thing has no switch ins whatsoever, yeah it has a bunch of (crippling) flaws but hell it has no switch ins. Yeah prediction goes both ways but this thing just...
  12. Resource ORAS OU Viability Ranking Thread V4

    tl:dr Hurricanes low accuracy affects the way Tornadus is used, no matter what the opponent does, and no matter if it actually hits or not the threat of missing means that the move won't be used as much and that itself means that torn isn't used to its full potential. And because of that, it...
  13. Resource ORAS OU Viability Ranking Thread V4

    How about scouting that last moveslot? Its pretty much always uturn, knock off, hurri so it can only have one of superpower, heatwave, taunt and whatever else you might wanna use. Finding out which one it is isnt that difficult and once you know things become alot easier. The LO reveals itself...
  14. Resource ORAS OU Viability Ranking Thread V3 - Read Post 3451 Page 139

    And which mons would that be? The only relevant mons between base 100 and base 110 are chomp, pinsir and keld/terra and not one of them can switch into any of gardes moves. Other base 100s like Cele/Mew/Manaphy can at most hope for a speed tie, usually they aren't even max speed and if they are...
  15. Resource ORAS OU Viability Ranking Thread V3 - Read Post 3451 Page 139

    I still think that Weavile is no A+ material. Its a good choice for offensive teams and has a very good match up against offense at the same time but outside of that I find it lackluster. With its complete absence of bulk or any kind of defensive synergy its a bad choice for Bulky...
  16. Resource ORAS OU Viability Ranking Thread V3 - Read Post 3451 Page 139

    Just a few comments on this: 1. Hoopa-U has enough power to 2hko basicly everything with the right coverage move, Mandi is no exception here. However, i doubt that Focus miss will be a common choice on Hoopa (haven't seen one so far though that doesn't mean much) since the main targets for its...
  17. Resource ORAS OU Viability Ranking Thread V3 - Read Post 3451 Page 139

    I am curious to know what people think about Mandibuzz rising a sub rank to B? With Hoopa-U beeing released and popular Mandibuzz stands out as one of the best switch ins to it. Its immune to one stab and resists the other and I am pretty sure that Drain Punch/Focus Blast don't get the 2hko...
  18. Pokémon OU Player of the Week #35: AM

    This is probably not the right place to address this but i will do it non the less. I honestly find this kinda funny coming from one of the "smogon elites"/"higher ups"/"central figues" or however you wanna call it because imo you guys are to a good extent responsible for that bandwagon...
  19. Resource ORAS OU Viability Ranking Thread V3 - Read Post 3451 Page 139

    Well for one i think the timing is wrong. Hoopa-u just got released into the tier and Mega Slowbro, even more than its normal form due to its loss of regenerator and therefore the ability to pivot in and out, is basicly the definition of hoopa bait. Ohkoed by LO Dark Pulse and scald does just...
  20. Resource ORAS OU Viability Ranking Thread V3 - Read Post 3451 Page 139

    You guys realy have to stop hyping hoopa like that. Yes it can 2hko everything in the meta when using LO which is cool and all but in return its frail enough to be 2hkoed by freaking Hippowdons EQ. You have to work your ass off to get it in safely against a defensive mon and then you will still...
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