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Metagrossite: Ban

confirming as raiderrocker18

i know its not worthy, i even said so in the post. was just pointing out that it was, in fact, stab. as to why i replied, i wanted to see if there were any new insights on zard, since i hadn't really seen it around in a while (especially zardX). so i read the most recent pages. didn't realize...

i agree that air slash sucks on it. but it IS stab... as opposed to the point you are making

Greninja: Ban

confirming as raiderrocker18

Not much can be added to the discussion at this point. I just acquired reqs and will vote to ban Greninja for the same reason that we banned everything else in gen6... it really puts a vicegrip on teambuilding and is prompting people to use pokes and sets that would otherwise be unviable. Float...

pretty much. i can't see it being OU viable until rock head is released. while strong jaw is nice, tyrantrum still feels far to reliant on dragon dancing at this stage.

this is arman from game on

you really have no way to deal with opposing Mega Venu without pp stalling it, nothing on your team outside of aegi can touch it at all

i've just rarely been in a situation where i found Chansey's SpDef was lacking. i'd take every ounce of physical bulk i can get by the off chance i need chansey to take a hit, in addition to passing a wish pass to a high-hp mon such as bulky ttar

Are you seriously suggesting Chansey is needing more SpDef investment? Pack it all into Defense and HP, don't think twice. the calc on the previous page is ridiculous, considering you are showing the effect on a 0- Atk chansey. the scale isn't big enough to demonstrate the difference

for teams that are based on fire, the first question i generally ask is how they plan to deal with heatran. a typical zard x will also just run a train through this team.

Lucarionite: Ban Genesect: Ban Deoxys-S: Do Not Ban

Yeah Gyarados covers all the bases, Zapdos is a good partner too, though he doesn't resist fire. Zapdos also helps in that he isn't redundant as far as being another physical attacker, in case you wanted to diversity your team. He could also be your designated hazard remover, although defog is...

I heard somebody in the ou chat pitch the idea of overheat with white herb, and acrobatics, as a good mixed attacking set, along with close combat, stone edge

low kick sounds great, but i just can't find room. its the infamous 4 move move slot syndrome. this gen, knock off, sucker punch, and iron head are necessities. low kick is an option, but i think sub/SD/pursuit are all more useful

if "it has a counter" or "it can be revenge killed" is the only argument, then its flawed. its a matter of how centralizing these mons are. people playing OU literally have to build their team in a way to be able to survive a mega lucario onslaught (of course, not knowing what type of attacker...

confirming as myself for both OU and OU suspect ladders

one thing about bisharp is too many people bluff sucker punch but don't follow through with it. if i were you i would use sucker punch the first time he's in, just to show you will. the first time somebody has a lati against your bisharp, go for the sucker punch. you might think the switch is...