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  1. Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Here are some decent replays for those of you who asked for proof that 3/4 is just as broken as 6 (there is a quote or two somewhere, but I'm not finding them). If you don't want them, ignore this. I'm nowhere near a good battler, but I managed to climb the ladder just as easily with 3 BPers. I...
  2. Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    It kills the strat of BP, which is passing around boosts to counters that are not inherently strong until you find a breaking point. Having 3 passers is a completely different strategy which is a quicker, less concentrated way of passing multiple boosts to a sweeper. What I am saying is that...
  3. Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    That's fair enough. I started playing competitively in gen 5 and just now started browsing the forum, so I can put my foot in my mouth. I still believe, however, that limiting the users does not fix the problem. New sweepers will take use of the boosts (as Flamer & Falcon0408 said) and use...
  4. Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Limiting BP to 3 passers effectively kills the strat. It is not a nerf.. A HO team with only 3 heavy hitters, stall with only 3 mons with defensive capabilities.. That sounds ridiculous. I realize that BP is a whole 'nother realm of play and needs more specific counters (some of which are not...
  5. Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Yeah! I concede to that. The problem with it being so strong right from the start lies in Scolipede. Smeargle/Ninjask can set up similarly, but preparing for a them in my eyes is is pretty basic (and they, just like most other BPers, were present in other gens where BP was fine). I'll chime in...
  6. Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Alright. That problem specifically is what makes BP broken this gen and that problem specifically is not solved by limiting the number of baton passers on a team. Just my piece of mind for the majority which is in favor of a limit. The playstyle has lived up until now with no complaint, so I...
  7. Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    I have read a large amount of the thread and get the gist of the arguments for and against PB's brokenness. What I haven't seen is people questioning what makes BP so different this gen than last gen. If I'm not missing something huge, the only big differences are Scolipede, Sylveon, and (lol)...
  8. Pokémon Flygon

    While I do think Flygon is outclassed in OU, and I do think it has it's niche in it as well, I think its niche is in being a defogger with its fairly unique typing, decent attacking options (+U-turn), and resistance to SR/immunity to spikes. Defog should be slashed or better yet given a spot...
  9. Simple Questions/Requests - Mark 36 (Minor Pokemon Trades, Item Requests etc GO HERE) (NO HACKING)

    Is there a place for really noob trades for people who are just starting out? I guess this would be it, but it seems too general? Anyway, I started breeding Whimsicott because it's my favorite pokemon, and happened to get a shiny. It came out while I was still breeding for IVs, so it doesn't...
  10. Pokémon Gothitelle

    I just started using Goth because I had a problem with a select few pokemon on my team, and if played right, she can take all of them out pretty easily. Item: Choice Specs Ability: Shadow Tag EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Speed / 4 HP Modest Nature - Energy Ball - Psyshock - Hidden Power [Fire] - Trick...
  11. Aha that's awesome; I didn't know it showed! Thank you!

    Aha that's awesome; I didn't know it showed! Thank you!
  12. Other Silly Things You've Seen On The OU Ladder: V2

    Just saw a Zen Mode Darmanitan with sub & belly drum. I can appreciate the effort.
  13. Other XY OU Victim of the Week [WEEK 6 (Read post #181)]

    I got swept by BD Azu and Conk a LOT, so I spent a lot of time finding a poke that could deal with them easily. Other than a few obscure pokemon and our premier wall, Megasaur, you can't really check BD once it's happened. Not saying those obscure pokemon are or aren't viable (I actually like...
  14. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (B- and C+ Pokemon discussion)

    I think it is because he has the crippling flaw of.. well.. only being as good as the other team. Against defensive teams, he is -almost- always a completely useless team slot. Against offensive teams, he has to come in on a pokemon he can scare out or ohko with their own move. It might do well...
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