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Absol's Disciple on the ladder.

I completely agree with M-Bro falling to A-. CM 2 Attacks is forced out by a lot. Manaphy (Due to fearing Energy Ball), Celebi, Serp, Hoopa-U, Ferro(Although it hates burns), M-Gyra( also hates burns, but has Taunt), Hydreigon, and any Electric type forces it to either give up its CM or try to...

Before I get into my actual post, I want to say that I was the one who had originally brought up discussion about Empoleon to B-, and I'm really happy and surprised that made it all the way to this slate. Anyways, my opinions about this slate: Hippowdon A+->A I agree with this change. Yea, it...

I'm not asking this move anywhere, but why is Politoed a sub-rank higher than the rain sweepers? Is it because it provides the rain support itself? I just never understood the placement and I would like that explained a bit. Also, just so this isn't a huge waste of a post, I propose Gothitelle...

: B--->B-/C+ I recall a little earlier back in this thread there was some discusion on how mediocre Defensive Starmie was in this meta with Weavile and it not forcing out much, and was absolutely baffled this mon wasn't mentioned. Empoleon, much like the defensive Starmie mentioned, is basically...

That was the one I was referring to, yes. As soon as an opponent sees the Life Orb damage, they aren't going to want to take the risk of switching into Celebi, so they force it out with someone like M-Alt, Clef, or M-Eye It's not a bad mon at all, and I'm not trying to say it is. It's just I...

Maybe it's just how often I've seen Torn-T and Weavile, then. I didn't say it was a requirement to wall Heatran and Talon, I was just listing cons that it has. To me, having weaknesses to Flying and getting significantly more damage from U-Turns isn't doing it any favors. Maybe B+ was...

I do agree that Celebi is good, yes. But while the Grass typing is giving it resistances to Ground, Electric, and Water, this also gives it weaknesses to Ice (Relevant especially with Weavile on the rise), Flying (Can't switch into Torn-T, Talonflame, or M-Aero like Mew can), and Fire (Making...

Hey everyone. New user here, so my opinion might not mean much, but I've always wondered why Celebi is in A-. I get the concept that it walls top threats like M-Lop, M-Meta, and the like, but why would I use it over Mew? Torn-T, Lando-T, and Talonflame are all fairly relevant forces in the...