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Nah, I need the coverage against Garchomp. Besides, I don't really need another MixApe counter.

Hmm. If I run Bronzong > Metagross, I can EQ it and win one on one. I think Venom was spot on with his advice, I'll be testing that out. ^^

Thanks Lee, I just ignored the last two. Sorry for reacting like that to the initial post, it wasn't constructive to the thread at all. Anyways, I've been trying out BulkyMence a bit and it has been pretty good. Intimidate is so effective whether it comes to causing switches for Dragon Dances or...

Well he got three accounts to occupy 1, 2, and 3 at the same time as the husk team outbreak. So even with these "dominating" offensive teams, he was able to do extremely well with stall.

Didn't that guy imperfectluck get like a 90% win rate with his stall team? I've used stall myself in a Stealth Rock metagame with success. I don't see how removing Stealth Rock would make it so "stall teams would finally have a chance". It's not always the team, more often than not it's the ones...

Yea, I've been considering testing out a Bulky Salamence in place of Dragonite, so I think I'll test that out a bit. I used to run Bronzong, but the Pursuit kill on Gengar has been extremely important for this team. However, that looks like a cool Dragonite EV Spread, I think I'll try it out...

24 hour bump. Can I get anymore help? :)

Hahah thanks. Good luck with that. Team just got it's 52nd win. ^_^

Right now I outspeed Jolly Tyranitar. Whats more is after a Dragon Dance, I outrun all base 115 Pokémon. :)

Well let's see what Steels I would face. Lucario is set up bait for me, Forretress takes neutral from EQ anyways, Metagross would survive EQ and KO me, Heatran is hit for Waterfall, Bronzong and Skarmory aren't even touched without Waterfall. Fire Punch means Infernape hurts me, but with...

1. Stealth Rock is obviously staying since it is completely necessary for any team with Lucario. Just because something doesn't seem right doesn't mean it shouldn't be used. Stelath Rock "doesn't seem right" on Aerodactyl, but it's amazingly effective. The same goes for Metagross. 2. Dude...

I definitely think I'll be keeping Rapid Spin. Starmie and Celebi really hate Toxic Spikes, even with Natural Cure. Celebi can't do much of anything if it is badly poisoned, other than switch in once and switch out. Celebi and Metagross do a damn good job against Gyarados from my experience. DD...

No not really. Barely tops 400 with Modest, and even then you're running with 75 Base Speed. I can't see that having any use in battle.

Hey Smogon, this is my first RMT here. In celebration of my 50th win with this team, I decided to unveil it to the public. I've used this team on Wi-Fi for a long time. It's record is 50-4-1, and since I've been to Smogon it's been 5-1-0 with the only loss being to a ridiculous amount of...

First off Mamoswine is faster than 40 Speed EV Celebi. Secondly, I was thinking more about a LO Mamoswine, who 2HKOs / OHKOs everything on this team. Right now his best option for Mamoswine and Stealth Rock is Heatran. Bronzong is a much more solid choice for BOTH of these, so I don't see a huge...

Fake out removes their focus sash, they hit it and take it down to a sash, and then they die since their sash is removed. Then when they bring in their next Pokémon, Stealth Rock is set up before it goes down. As for BulkyNite, I'm running Jolly because I have a certain speed I want to reach...

The item is lost for the rest of the battle. If it is used against a substitute, it does damage, but the secondary effect of it losing an item work.

True, but that just about makes Magnezone a must if you want to use that Dragonite. As for the Infernape set, that sounds pretty good. Do you know if a Close Combat can kill Aerodactyl after a Fake Out? Can Fire Blast kill Azelf? I'm sure it can after a Blaze Boost, so thats all that really...

Considering you have a ridiculous Mamoswine weakness, I would consider running Bronzong over Heatran. You still set up Stealth Rock, but now you aren't fucked over by Mamoswine. Also, I'd probably run Stealth Rock, Reflect, Gyro Ball, Earthquake on it, which would allow you to use Leech Seed on...

OU: Blissey (maybe?), Breloom, Forretress, Gliscor, Gyarados, Heracross, Roserade, Scizor, Yanmega Obviously, these pokemon are going to be abused a lot. Gyarados will really be abused, as it really only has one solid counter, and that is Slowbro. I can imagine that Gyarados / Scizor would be an...