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So overall, that's why I believe that resttalk mega mawile shouldn't be a set(I don't believe this set has been used AT ALL in tours or World Cup so far( it probably won't see any usage at all)

Without any attack investment mega mawile's offensive presence decreases significantly so while that attack stat is kind of a niche your still losing out on around 200 attack points here

Now that I think about it, other counters for breloom and terrakion have much more utility to offer(skarmory has defog and suicune has calm mind to potentially sweep for example) than mega mawile

I shortened the list of counters to terrakion and breloom so I could post the post those posts because there are a LOT of counters to them

Clefable can counter dragons AND stallbreak giving it much more utility(all mega mawile can do is attempt to use an unreliable form of recovery to 'counter' certain threats and one it mega evolves it loses intimidate) one thing that I forgot to mention(too be continued) is that although it may...

doesn't counter dragonite. Even if mega mawile did counter dragonite clefable would still be the superior choice. The reason for that is that if you need to put a good answer on your team to a specific poke you would choose the one that offers more to your team (too be continued)

Mega mawile beats Cbb nite( the lack of attack investment means no eq 3hko). In your first post(on My profile page) you were talking about why use skarmory to counter d-nite when hippowdon counters d-nite. I just established that physically defensive mega mawile(too be continued)

Mega Mawile doesn't counter dd nite either. If mega mawile switches into eq and dragonite eqs again it takes play rough with multiscale and koes with the next eq(if mega mawile uses rest on the second eq, d-nitd has a decent shot at winning). too be continued

Let me show you the calc -1 252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Mawile: 152-180 (50 - 59.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. So. even at minus 1 mega mawile gets 2hkoed by the most common dragonite set and therefore it is not a counter(too be continued)

I asked again and a decent amount of people said yes. I think we can agree that choice band d-nite is arguably the best set just based off of that. I also checked the usage statistics(which I backed up) and choice band d-nite was the most common set(too be continued)

I (this post starts off at the end of the last one) actually backed them up this time. I went (for lack of a better word) on the on the ou chat room and asked if choice band d-nite was the best set and at first, most people,we're taling about how all d-nites are good (too be continued)

Dragonuser, after more extensive thought I realized that my points on terrakion and breloom weren't very good.My point on d-nite still stands though and heres why. Although you said usage statistics aren't a good point to bring up too be continued

and a bit of hp(which may or may not matter depending on the context of the battle)? If substitute isn't going to be replaced with another move it could at least be slashed with another move(sacred sword to beat bisharp for example) although that depends on aegislash getting banned or not

but (this post picks up where the last one started) I don't see many times where sub is useful. If subbing on the mandibuzz switch-in means that taunt mandibuzz can beat it then sub is useless against mandibuzz. Furthermore, why can't aegislash just toxic things on the switch-in (too be continued)

Mandibuzz still doesn't counter aegislash because aegislash can just use toxic on the switch-in. This got me thinking about why aegislash needs to run substitute in the first place. I believe I understand the basic concept(with a substitute up prediction becomes nearly non-existent) too be continued

Alexwolf, these next four posts(including this one) are directed towards aegislash.After reading a majority of the aegislash suspect discussion thread I have found that (apparently) taunt mandibuzz counters sub-toxic aegislash. The concept is that if aegislash sets up a sub, mandibuzz can taunt...

Knock off used to be there in the moveset statistics but no langer does and if it does have some usage it's the move in other and has 18% usage

Dragonuser, the setup sweeper mega mawile set should have fire fang listed as the first option for the third move slot. On the usage statistics fire fang has high usage on mega mawile (45 % on the 1695 ladder and 55% on the high ladder)

I used terrakion,breloom, and dragonite as examples to show you that the resttalk set sucks. I even checked the usage statistics and the resttalk set evs didn't show up anywhere unless it's in the "other". In conclusion, the resttalk set sucks and is never used so I believe it should go.

Breloom is easily countered by mega venusaur,amoonguss, skarmory ( breloom can 't do much to skarmory anyway) and breloom is easily checked by latios,latias,gengar, and dragonite.