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Ive been using this strategy and while I say it works well its certainly easy to shut down and I honestly dont think its that overpowered. Thats just my two cents

Well honestly, I think that that's just be a good strategist. Please don't try to read more into what I'm saying here, all I mean is just if he gets banned, let it be because it hurts, not because some people can't predict it right. I never correctly predict a gliscor but that alone doesn't...

Oh I know it's not ou I'm just saying it's not a secret that it's predictable. Trust me, I know how different they are. And I personally I'd say 90% of the time I do correctly predict him. It's just not that difficult

This is exactly why I'm anti-aegislash ban. When I was the vgc nationals, everytime there was an aegislash the players would sarcastically say "I wonder what he'll do next" and the aegislash owner would laugh along with them. Aegislash is just too easy to get around.

1) Fletchling (Pokemon) 2) Meinfoo (Pokemon) 3) Unban Swirlix (Pokemon)

Yes I have terrible ELO and Ladder position, but.... I DID IT!!!!! Coming for you fletchling, Meinfoo, and Abra! Btw, the ladder was trash. The overprediction and completely OP team comps gave me ulcers

Oh, I apologize then. Its seems it is I who misunderstood you :toast: sorry bout dat. Thanks for backing me up then!

Please don't misunderstand what I meant here. I meant that metagame is always threats and checks and saying something forces you to use something isn't a good reason for banning it. Sure it seems a little centralizing, but somethings gonna replace it as the big threat. My post wasn't trying to...

This is really the case with any major threat though isn't it? I could be mistaken but I always thought Greninja was the best pokemon to counter charizard and that is a good reason as to why he moved to the number one slot.

Fair enough, I simply mean that the problem isn't solved by banning something, it's learning to counter it or else the thing anti smogon players hate most is true (banning things just to not have to deal with it).

From playing on the test ladder today, I want to back up a few opinions. Aegislash counters a good amount of things, so banning him has (at least in the test ladder) made more problems then it fixed. I think he does a better job balancing parts of the meta then he does unbalancing it as a whole...

Although this is my first forum post, I have been playing OU and other metas for a long time so please dont let the fact that this is my first post decrease its validity. Although I agree that Aegislash is a very aggravating Pokémon to battle, and its pseudo BST of 720 is ridiculous, he...

Shuckle or bust