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I'm not convinced a gastly suspect wouldn't be more appropriate than a quick ban. If people want to ban it though then ban it. Sub LO is certainly a power set in the meta. Perhaps with it gone we'd see other fast LO users like wingull more. Anyways, I'm not going to do a whole write up on it...

I dislike dynamax a lot, but I wonder if Nintendo/GF would be bothered at all by an outright ban here (If this kind of talk is taboo just delete this post). Showdown has some of it's own rules from cartridge but removing the main mechanic from this generations is a bigger deviation than we...

I'm not sure this is a fair assessment. Hippo can change the weather but it certainly doesn't want to be switched in on bellsprout. I would not put it passed people to have something creative like mixed bellsprout. Bellsprout does have more attack than special attack. It has some nice options...

(Edit: Even though it's not "up for discussion") Nominating togepi for C rank. This will probably the only other somewhat viable fairy type in lc uu other than maybe azurill, and while it's spa is low it can run a decent amount of physical bulk. The reason this could be useful is dratini and...

Without smash binacle and clampearl are extremely less threatening. Tooth pearl with trick room is okay but easily killed or forced out if it can not land a kill. It has the same problem as cubone of being powerful but not powerful enough to secure the kills it would need to be worthwhile. I...

I nominate rufflets for B-. The scarf set is mediocre compared to darumaka but has some undeniable power behind it anyways. I would like to add that a bulk up eviolite set is both unexpected and sometimes very effective. rufflets has surprizing good bulk, attack stat, and a commendable base 60...

Is squirtle even outright better than piplup? For lc uu, are we to say that rapid spin > defog? There is a reason that piplup was popular in early lc uu. - They can both get 23/16/14 defenses (good hp number to keep SR at 2 damage). They can both yawn/scald - Hazard removal becomes defog vs...

Shellos @ Eviolite Ability: Sticky Hold Level: 5 EV's: 228 Hp / 132 Def / 100 Spd / 4 Spe Bold Nature - Recover - scald - Stockpile - Earthpower 236 Atk Pawniard Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 228 HP / 132+ Def Eviolite Shellos: 9-12 (33.3 - 44.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO (9, 9, 9, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10...

Where is manytke and bellsprout? Edit: Where is rufflets :(? I also think mincinno and meowth are too good to be both at B-

Oh does it matter? Just go with the duo then. I'll even edit out the kabuto. It's a rip off of leingodf8 anyways.

You must have missed this Fran, but it was decided that high rolls would be treated as crits and your counter only had to work the majority of the time. See post #13 for confirmation. I think this is a little more slack than the counter that threat thread, but high rolls are kind of like crits...

What are your guys thoughts on hippopatas and torchic? If shellsmash goes torchpass will be even more viable and it's often difficult to deal with in regular LC. Hippopatas has been a big member of lc uu as both a hazard/stall poke but also as a means to set up sand for sandshrew. It was not...

Even if you consider only the lc uu pokemon that are considered viable and are frequently used, it's not even close to "half the metagame". This seems a blatant exaggeration. It would be like banning minefoo, pawniard, and a couple A+ mons Totally half the metagame. LC would be removed as a meta...

Well almost nothing can counter that solo no matter how gimmicky (LO doduo hits too hard and drilbur checks all the flying resists). Omanyte and kabuto can, but kabuto only has a 75% chance to kill drilbur with waterfall. That is still the majority of the time so I would assume it still counts...

You are better off using a toxic stall set or something. The reason being is that spritzee can pp stall bronzor pretty badly. This set you have here will not work. _____ 48 SpA Bronzor Flash Cannon vs. +2 212 HP / 76 SpD Eviolite Spritzee: 6-8 (22.2 - 29.6%) -- 2.2% chance to 4HKO (6, 6, 6, 6...

My bad, I missed that. It doesn't really matter though because this is a berry juice munchlax with recycle. Ironically, if you did use the 31 hitpoint 18 attack munchlax I said I wanted to use, but didn't need to, then this would rely less on the 39.1% damage rolls because 31 hitpoints wouldn't...

Munchlax @ Berry Juice Ability: Thick Fat Level: 5 Evs: 236 Atk / 36 Def / 236 Spd Adamant Nature - Return - Gunk Shot - Recycle - Curse Standard bulky, attack Munchlax with berry juice and recycle. I wanted to give it 31 hp and 18 attack but decided to just leave it standard cause it doesn't...

No offense but why would you use these replays against really bad teams as an example for anything? Anything team that is swept 6 - 0 by a Smash dwebble lead is fucking terrible. Try making a replay of mienfoo lead knocking off the berry juice and then killing in turn 2 with drain punch? That...

I shall prove that croagunk is not a reliable counter! 36 Atk Timburr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 52 HP / 116 Def Eviolite Croagunk: 3-4 (13.6 - 18.1%) -- possible 6HKO (3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4) 22 - 1 from SR = 21 - 3 KO dmg = 18 hp croagunk Switch into stunky now. 188+...

No, I checked the calculations again and it would be unlikey to beat timburr. I absentmindedly didn't consider that fighting would be SE against archen after roost. Luckily you caught that right away.